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Originally Posted by StarClipper
(Post 1988199)
I guess these people are looking out for their best interest and the best interest of their families. It's no different than FDXLAG, ROCK and Albie15 defending their votes
Do you think the yes voter is being selfish, and the no voter is valiantly advancing the cause, against their own self interest? Edit to add, maybe you should join in the Lord of the Rings proposed TA story. |
Originally Posted by MaxKts
(Post 1988202)
We decided a course of action - it was called our openers! We didn't acheive them! The course of action required would be to turn down this TA and work for a better one!
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
(Post 1988202)
We decided a course of action - it was called our openers! We didn't acheive them! The course of action required would be to turn down this TA and work for a better one!
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
(Post 1988206)
Based on what I'm reading, there is no contract yet. Just a TA, the contract haven't been voted in yet. And if you think Mngmt don't look at what actions are taken by crew force at other companies, you're fooling yourself. They pay very close attention to work rules, compensation ect. With that being said, work rules and QOL and other companies could have an adverse effect on your company. There is currently a new company flying MD11 based out of Florida, if their work rule are such that they don't have enough rest and God forbid an incident occur, what effect would the incident of an MD11 have on your company. At the end of the day we are all interconnected. One man mistake regardless if it's due to fatigue or poor working condition could cause serious change in regulation for all.
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The no faction is starting to sound shrill. I've been reading all this the last few days and it occurred to me; why would the MEC vote unanimously to conclude negotiations and then immediately a very coordinated effort by 4 reps whipsaw and vociferously attack the TA before the road shows even started? I did some looking, and Capt. Teeter published an interesting opinion back in March about the ongoing struggle of a minority to gain control of FDX ALPA. Could it be all this caterwauling is more about the "inevitable reorg." and control Of the MEC than about the TA? :confused::confused:
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
(Post 1988206)
Based on what I'm reading, there is no contract yet. Just a TA, the contract haven't been voted in yet. And if you think Mngmt don't look at what actions are taken by crew force at other companies, you're fooling yourself. They pay very close attention to work rules, compensation ect. With that being said, work rules and QOL and other companies could have an adverse effect on your company. There is currently a new company flying MD11 based out of Florida, if their work rule are such that they don't have enough rest and God forbid an incident occur, what effect would the incident of an MD11 have on your company. At the end of the day we are all interconnected. One man mistake regardless if it's due to fatigue or poor working condition could cause serious change in regulation for all.
Forget even talking about incidents.:( |
Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 1988207)
You are assuming, however, what is the "right" way to vote. What, in your mind, is a no voter doing differently than a yes voter? Why do you single those people out?
Do you think the yes voter is being selfish, and the no voter is valiantly advancing the cause, against their own self interest? Edit to add, maybe you should join in the Lord of the Rings proposed TA story. |
Great, so Starclipper works for someone else. Policywonk is a weird man of mystery. And not a single FedEx no voter will answer the very easy question I posted on this thread. Not that we actually know if there are any FedEx no voters on this thread.
What a circus. No wonder 90% of the crew force considers this website something below the Gerry Springer show. |
It's funny. There are a couple of posters on our other site that post a lot like Lag and Rock.
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
(Post 1988228)
I pointed Albie15 out because he did a complete 180 from his pre TA post. He listed had a lot of things which he stated were no votes then he post a few pages on why he is voting yes even if most of the demands weren't met. As for Rock and FDXLAG it just seems like they have no rational. Pretty much if the union say it, they believe it, regardless of what's written in black and white
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