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Originally Posted by maxkts (Post 1988202)

we decided a course of action - it was called our openers! We didn't acheive them! The course of action required would be to turn down this ta and work for a better one!

Bingo!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by MaxKts (Post 1988255)

Where do you get all that? This is why some have a problem with you. Someone counters your logic and you go all out on them.

I'm not upset, I don't plan on quiting ALPA, And even if I wanted to, which I don't, I can not withhold dues!

If this TA passes, I will collect my signing bonus, take my pay raise and in six years take my 30K! SLB won't be a factor because I don't plan on working that hard my last couple of years, although, I think we will all be working harder than we wish!

If the TA fails, I will do whatever is asked of me by the MEC!

Life goes on with a yes vote and the world does not implode with a no vote!

Although, with a yes vote 8 in 24 is gone forever and our retirement will continue to erode!

You know Fock this place.

I responded to some other foreign poster that unity was supporting the MEC while they negotiate and then supporting them after we (the voters) decide on a course of action.

You butt in with a response that has absolutely nothing to do with my response to UPStarman and say "we decided on a course of action the openers". I guess you consider that countering my logic.

I point out hey we are beyond that. A TA trumps openers. If it gets voted in what are you going to do? And you take exception to it. You gave a snarky response to my post i replied in kind with about 10 % of the snark.

For the record, openers don't mean squat in section 6 negotiations. Particularly after a mediated TA is reached and is voted on by the MEC.

Yeah, let's not even have polls to determine openers in 2021. Better yet, let's not have any type of goals next time around. Let's just settle for whatever the company offers. Uhhh, like this time. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 1988339)

Hey is that refuting my logic too? Let me know.

You don't like the process I don't like the process. That and 2.25 will get you a tall pikes place.

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1988338)

There you go again...

I have a lot more to say but I will leave it at that.

"BBB"
Blah, blah, blah.

A fitting new profile name for LAG. Devoid of substance and nonsensical, contrarian nonsense.

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Originally Posted by MaxKts (Post 1988351)

There you go again...

I have a lot more to say but I will leave it at that.

Passive Aggressive. Leave it if you like. For the life of me there was nothing in my post to starups that anyone can find objectionable but you did, and I am at fault.

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1988198)

It actually does matter where you work. You want a no vote because you think it will give your union a stronger hand. Nothing wrong with that, it is in your self interest.

Unity while we are in negotiations is one thing. Unity after we vote on a contract is another issue. Every vote is based one way or the other on self interests. But once we as a group decide on a course of action then it takes all of us to achieve it. And that is what we as indiviiduals are deciding, which step are we going to take next. It is in your self interest to join a union and it is in your self interest to see that the union is successful.

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1988330)

We have another site?

That was my question. I have long held APC is most useful for entertainment. Sometimes it still is. But if there is another site where there might actually be useful discussion, I'd probably enjoy that a little more during this TA process.
I heard the MEC meeting today was mostly a one man filibuster by a no voter who finally had members in attendance asking him to shut up so people could actually ask questions about the TA. I had to laugh because it sounded just like an average day on APC.

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Originally Posted by GetRealDude (Post 1988354)

"BBB"
Blah, blah, blah.

A fitting new profile name for LAG. Devoid of substance and nonsensical, contrarian nonsense.

Dude...reread what you just wrote and ruminate on it for a few seconds. Maybe you were trying to be ironically humorous. Except you don't seem to ever have a sense of humor.

Dude, I think it's spot on and hilarious. If you can't appreciate it, return to the Rock.