How does the TA prevent this?
10-12-2015, 01:10 PM
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How does the TA prevent this?
I know we were told lay flat seats would not be used in economy, why is this not in writing within the TA?
Recent news story about airlines starting to design economy class lay flat seats called "couches".
For full story: CNN - Shaking up seat design in economy
Shaking up seat design in economy - CNN Video
Recent news story about airlines starting to design economy class lay flat seats called "couches".
For full story: CNN - Shaking up seat design in economy
Shaking up seat design in economy - CNN Video
10-12-2015, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VoteNoTA2015
I know we were told lay flat seats would not be used in economy, why is this not in writing within the TA?
Recent news story about airlines starting to design economy class lay flat seats called "couches".
For full story: CNN - Shaking up seat design in economy
Shaking up seat design in economy - CNN Video
Recent news story about airlines starting to design economy class lay flat seats called "couches".
For full story: CNN - Shaking up seat design in economy
Shaking up seat design in economy - CNN Video
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http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/1968628-post47.html
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FDX MEC TA Q&A
10-12-2015, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by VoteNoTA2015
I know we were told lay flat seats would not be used in economy, why is this not in writing within the TA?
c. Higher Class of Service
i. Regardless of a passenger carrier’s nomenclature or hierarchy for
classes of service, a Flat Bed Seat satisfies the higher class of
service requirements set forth in this Section. (p.119)
10-12-2015, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
What we were told in videos, roadshows and Q&A won't matter to an arbitrator. The only thing that will matter is what is written in the TA:
c. Higher Class of Service
i. Regardless of a passenger carrier’s nomenclature or hierarchy for
classes of service, a Flat Bed Seat satisfies the higher class of
service requirements set forth in this Section. (p.119)
c. Higher Class of Service
i. Regardless of a passenger carrier’s nomenclature or hierarchy for
classes of service, a Flat Bed Seat satisfies the higher class of
service requirements set forth in this Section. (p.119)
10-12-2015, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
Does the definition specify where the seat may be located?
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But, I will concede that, if, an airline decides to replace their 30 pitch seats in economy with 80 pitch, lie-flat seats, then yes, we may be fully lying flat in economy class.
But the bank will still be based on the highest class of service.
10-12-2015, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
But, I will concede that, if, an airline decides to replace their 30 pitch seats in economy with 80 pitch, lie-flat seats, then yes, we may be fully lying flat in economy class.
But the bank will still be based on the highest class of service.
Maybe they know something we don't.
What if SWA starts flying to the Hawaiian islands or what if Ryan Air starts flying from CONUS to Europe and they both configure their cabins accordingly.
10-12-2015, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Any thoughts then on why the Company wanted this Language instead of the way it was written in the Current Contract?
It would have been so easy to add, "in Business Class or better." I doubt the omission was accidental.
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10-12-2015, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
What if SWA starts flying to the Hawaiian islands or what if Ryan Air starts flying from CONUS to Europe and they both configure their cabins accordingly.
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