Don't get caught by the new bidding days
10-29-2015, 04:25 PM
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Don't get caught by the new bidding days
Take note of the number of days you have to do your monthly bid!
The monthly bid starts just like normal on a Thursday at 1700 ct, but it ends at 1200 the following Monday. You only have 4 days to bid!
Was just looking at the month of November on my calendar and noticed the change.
The monthly bid starts just like normal on a Thursday at 1700 ct, but it ends at 1200 the following Monday. You only have 4 days to bid!
Was just looking at the month of November on my calendar and noticed the change.
10-29-2015, 07:25 PM
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Dang, thanks, Brad! I didn't notice that. A whole lot of people might get screwed if they don't realize this.
Wouldn't ya think the union would be updating us on important changes, as time goes on? After all, they negotiated it. They are 100% aware of every change. I certainly hope they give people a heads up when things change, seeing as there seem to be a large number of changes at different times.
Wouldn't ya think the union would be updating us on important changes, as time goes on? After all, they negotiated it. They are 100% aware of every change. I certainly hope they give people a heads up when things change, seeing as there seem to be a large number of changes at different times.
10-29-2015, 09:52 PM
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Thanks for posting that.
I guess I need to read the contract, now that it passed.
I see that open time still takes 4 hours to get a response. I thought we were going to have instant trip trading. Oh, wait, we didn't get that? Why am I not surprised?
Seriously, there were plenty of things to vote no about, so I did.
Anyone know what SWW open and SWW close means? Maybe a "yes" voter can explain it to me.
I guess I need to read the contract, now that it passed.
I see that open time still takes 4 hours to get a response. I thought we were going to have instant trip trading. Oh, wait, we didn't get that? Why am I not surprised?
Seriously, there were plenty of things to vote no about, so I did.
Anyone know what SWW open and SWW close means? Maybe a "yes" voter can explain it to me.
10-30-2015, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
Thanks for posting that.
I guess I need to read the contract, now that it passed.
I see that open time still takes 4 hours to get a response. I thought we were going to have instant trip trading. Oh, wait, we didn't get that? Why am I not surprised?
Seriously, there were plenty of things to vote no about, so I did.
Anyone know what SWW open and SWW close means? Maybe a "yes" voter can explain it to me.
I guess I need to read the contract, now that it passed.
I see that open time still takes 4 hours to get a response. I thought we were going to have instant trip trading. Oh, wait, we didn't get that? Why am I not surprised?
Seriously, there were plenty of things to vote no about, so I did.
Anyone know what SWW open and SWW close means? Maybe a "yes" voter can explain it to me.
10-30-2015, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
I see that open time still takes 4 hours to get a response. I thought we were going to have instant trip trading. Oh, wait, we didn't get that? Why am I not surprised?
And the negotiators knew that even though the pilots asked for real time trip trading, we didn't know what was best for us, so they decided that we really didn't want it after all. Much more important to keep priority makeup going. Seems like if they'd actually talked to pilots who really work within this system and spend their damn lives waiting for trip trades to be processed, that they would have realized that we actually meant it, and wouldn't have made the decision not to ask for it, for us.
10-30-2015, 08:39 AM
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I wonder what the vote results would have been had there been no road shows and no videos, just pilots receiving paper/electronic copies of the TA to independently and responsibly read, digest, and vote accordingly. I suspect the TA would have been an abysmal failure, as it should've been... IMO.
10-30-2015, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HDawg
Were road shows and videos mandatory?
I don't think that was his point.The road shows/videos were full of rainbows and unicorns. So, a certain percentage (I'm guessing at least 8%
) of the apathetic masses who can't be bothered to really scrutinize this POS just accepted the sell job. Probably because they're too busy looking for their next draft trip or trying sell back vacation.
Last edited by Adlerdriver; 10-30-2015 at 01:38 PM.
10-30-2015, 01:21 PM
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HO
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SCHEIZE!!!!
HOW did this happen? Listen to me ALPA, we need to fix this and fix this yesterday! It is very easy if you are on the road to miss the opportunity to bid with a four day bidding period!!!
The company wants PBS. They know that if they cut the bid period down then a lot of people will FAIL bidding and wind up on reserve = total destruction of your life in order to cover the schedule with a smaller pilot group!!!
Again, we need an LOA on this one!!!
LY
SCHEIZE!!!!
HOW did this happen? Listen to me ALPA, we need to fix this and fix this yesterday! It is very easy if you are on the road to miss the opportunity to bid with a four day bidding period!!!
The company wants PBS. They know that if they cut the bid period down then a lot of people will FAIL bidding and wind up on reserve = total destruction of your life in order to cover the schedule with a smaller pilot group!!!
Again, we need an LOA on this one!!!
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