FDX Disruption Question
02-26-2016 | 10:29 AM
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FDX Disruption Question
Would the following count as, "a standby period is added to a duty period for reasons other than maintenance or weather" disruption?
Non-designated sweep flight. Scheduled to show at 0100 and depart at 0200. Release designates flight a sweep flight and says cannot depart prior to another outbound flight (departing at 0245). Called crew control guy after the fact and said I'd like the pairing rebuilt to show a 45min airport standby and he claimed that since our show time hadn't changed it wasn't a disruption. If we had to show early, then it would be an added standby period.
So, before I inquire through official channels, I'll ask here: Should we be entitled to disruption pay for an added standby period? If not is there anything keeping the company from building trips with show times more than 1 hour prior to departure without designating the time as standby? Just put in release not to depart earlier than 2 or 3 hours after show. Something doesn't seem right about this, but I expect to find out just because they required us to sit around for an extra 45 mins with an option to send us earlier doesn't mean it was a standby. What say the experts?
Non-designated sweep flight. Scheduled to show at 0100 and depart at 0200. Release designates flight a sweep flight and says cannot depart prior to another outbound flight (departing at 0245). Called crew control guy after the fact and said I'd like the pairing rebuilt to show a 45min airport standby and he claimed that since our show time hadn't changed it wasn't a disruption. If we had to show early, then it would be an added standby period.
So, before I inquire through official channels, I'll ask here: Should we be entitled to disruption pay for an added standby period? If not is there anything keeping the company from building trips with show times more than 1 hour prior to departure without designating the time as standby? Just put in release not to depart earlier than 2 or 3 hours after show. Something doesn't seem right about this, but I expect to find out just because they required us to sit around for an extra 45 mins with an option to send us earlier doesn't mean it was a standby. What say the experts?
02-26-2016 | 10:54 AM
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The grievance we lost, basically ruled that if you were already scheduled to be on duty...Then, making you standby doesn't add anything to your schedule.
So, long answer short...No, you won't get anything.
Unless, this is one of the many fixes we fought so hard for, in Contract 2015.
So, long answer short...No, you won't get anything.
Unless, this is one of the many fixes we fought so hard for, in Contract 2015.
02-26-2016 | 11:20 AM
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I guess this is a case where you need to be "proactive instead of reactive" (used by scheds more than once).
When told you can't depart until the other a/c has left, call scheds and ask if you are on STBY.
If they say yes - then have it added to the pairing.
If they say no - then tell them you would like to depart as scheduled!
If it is a "schedule change" and they knew about it ahead of time - ask them why your pairing and show time were not changed!
Then submit a POR or whatever it's called now. If enough are submitted eventually it may change the way they jack us around at times!
When told you can't depart until the other a/c has left, call scheds and ask if you are on STBY.
If they say yes - then have it added to the pairing.
If they say no - then tell them you would like to depart as scheduled!
If it is a "schedule change" and they knew about it ahead of time - ask them why your pairing and show time were not changed!
Then submit a POR or whatever it's called now. If enough are submitted eventually it may change the way they jack us around at times!
02-26-2016 | 11:55 AM
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I guess this is a case where you need to be "proactive instead of reactive" (used by scheds more than once).
When told you can't depart until the other a/c has left, call scheds and ask if you are on STBY.
If they say yes - then have it added to the pairing.
If they say no - then tell them you would like to depart as scheduled!
If it is a "schedule change" and they knew about it ahead of time - ask them why your pairing and show time were not changed!
Then submit a POR or whatever it's called now. If enough are submitted eventually it may change the way they jack us around at times!
When told you can't depart until the other a/c has left, call scheds and ask if you are on STBY.
If they say yes - then have it added to the pairing.
If they say no - then tell them you would like to depart as scheduled!
If it is a "schedule change" and they knew about it ahead of time - ask them why your pairing and show time were not changed!
Then submit a POR or whatever it's called now. If enough are submitted eventually it may change the way they jack us around at times!
It doesn't matter if they call it a standby or not. If it is scheduled during time that you were already scheduled to be on duty..."You'll get nothing and like it!"
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