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Old 05-11-2016 | 01:38 PM
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What I found strange is that they are training 16-01 pilots before some 15-01 ones. Same seat/base.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
What I found strange is that they are training 16-01 pilots before some 15-01 ones. Same seat/base.
I believe a lot of 75/76 folks are getting passed over, with passover, due to shortage in that seat...
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Old 05-11-2016 | 03:01 PM
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I believe a lot of 75/76 folks are getting passed over, with passover, due to shortage in that seat...
It's not that... there won't be any passover. It's different bids.

Look at the 757 letter.

01 AUG 2016 Training date
SF & BW were awarded M57C slots on 15-01
SM was awarded E57C slot on 15-01

20 JUN 2016 Training date
SM & TH were awarded M57C slots on 16-01
BR was awarded E57C slot on 16-01

Not that I care, but I always thought the training letters trained in order. All 15-01s would train before 16-01s. I guess not.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 03:33 PM
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What does the $ symbol mean on the training letter? There is a key for & and % but not for $.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
It's not that... there won't be any passover. It's different bids.

Look at the 757 letter.

01 AUG 2016 Training date
SF & BW were awarded M57C slots on 15-01
SM was awarded E57C slot on 15-01

20 JUN 2016 Training date
SM & TH were awarded M57C slots on 16-01
BR was awarded E57C slot on 16-01

Not that I care, but I always thought the training letters trained in order. All 15-01s would train before 16-01s. I guess not.

I'm probably not a good source to answer this, but, I do know on the airbus, there were some 75 captains that were awarded bus capt and their training dates were published as summer 2017 on bid 15 01 training letter. Those captains were senior to the most junior bus captain that will upgrade this summer on 15 01, thus, triggering passover for those folks. I guess they just filled in the training slots between now and next summer with 16 01 guys. Again, this is just what I noticed on the airbus.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 06:13 PM
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While in theory they should train 15-1 first, they will continue to train in any order they choose and then pay pass over if appropriate. It really sucks, because you can't even estimate when you will go to training before you bid. That's why bid for training is a huge gain in the new contract, or will be when it's actually implemented.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 07:27 PM
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Why we agree to anything implemented at a date other than date of signing is beyond me. Whatever. Spilled milk.
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Old 05-11-2016 | 08:42 PM
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Why we agree to anything implemented at a date other than date of signing is beyond me. Whatever. Spilled milk.
You're just not being a team player! Get on board and come on in for the big win!

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Old 05-12-2016 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gcsass
You're just not being a team player! Get on board and come on in for the big win!





It's the Jungian thing sir!
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Old 05-12-2016 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo
It's the Jungian thing sir!


Inside every gook there is an American trying to get out!
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