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NewbiePilot11 01-25-2023 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by MtnFlying (Post 3579308)
The info below continues to change as training slots are in flux because of the number of new hires coming onboard, so this is just my footprint as an example. Each fleet may also be different as well. I'm on the Challenger and just finished OE in December.

Initial Indoc: 4 Days at HQ's in Cleveland (Tue travel, class Wed to Fri, travel home on Friday night) Covers HR stuff, uniform sizing, badges, iphone issue, CC issue, basic company classes, etc.

Traveled to Dallas on Sunday afternoon.

Basic Indoc: 7 days at CAE in Dallas (Mon to Sun) Part 135/91K focus (only 6 days for the Phenom crews because day 7 was oceanic plotting for the Challenger and Legacy)

*This is where you might get an extended break. I had 14 days off between the end of Indoc and the start of ground school. The Phenom guys had the same 14 day break. Half my class had a 4 week break due to training slot availability. This was actually good, because I was able to study and have my limitations, memory items, and all of my flows memorized for both seats. Highly recommend buying the cockpit poster (Challenger anyway) that is available at PilotMall.com, the ones they gave us were tiny and hard to see.

Ground School: 8 days (Mon Travel, class Tue to Mon) - Location could be Orlando, Dallas, St Louis, or other training location as assigned by fleet. We had one day off between ground and sims.
Sims: 8 days (Wed to Wed) - Five 4-hour sessions plus mock checkride, Checkride, and one LOFT session.
Initial OE: I was able to complete mine during a single 8 day trip and that included one day of reserve at the hotel with no trips assigned. Some of my classmates had two trips to get theirs done because they were shorter in length.

As far as the break after training, you will get a minimum of 7 days off between the completion of LOFT and the start of OE. I had 7 weeks off until I started OE and some of my classmates had closer to 11 weeks off. It was only supposed to be 2-3 weeks, but instructor availability plays into it and we bumped up against Christmas and prime vacation time. Never asked what the issue was, just enjoyed my time off until called. Your paid the same training pay all the way until OE completion, no matter how much time off you have.

As soon as the paperwork hit the crew scheduling desk that I was OE complete, I had my schedule for the rest of December and January posted before I even got back home from OE...lol.

Hope that helps.

Cheers!

This is absolutely incredible! Thank you so very much.

Just a couple more quick questions. What does the training pay look like? Are we able to use our company CC for meals during training? Or is there per diem during training?

Thanks again!

TCASfail 01-25-2023 07:42 PM

Monthly training pay is whatever $100,035 is divided by 12. 2 paychecks a month plus per diem. Use company credit card when you’re on duty and not on home reserve.

Dbill85 01-26-2023 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by NewbiePilot11 (Post 3579332)
This is absolutely incredible! Thank you so very much.

Just a couple more quick questions. What does the training pay look like? Are we able to use our company CC for meals during training? Or is there per diem during training?

Thanks again!

Compensation for new hire training will be calculated using 16.25 days per month at the PBS year 1 daily rate until completion
of Phase Two OE.
You can expense all meals to the company card plus you will receive per diem.

NewbiePilot11 03-07-2023 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by trouljaboy (Post 3490589)
It's annoying, and it's a pain for a week or so while they're working it, but hindsight it's not the end of the world. FWIW I think EVERYONE in my indoc class of 14 had a hang-up of some sort. They were "unable to verify my employment" at the flight school I instructed at, and it turns out they called them at 9pm on a Friday, obviously no one answered, so they marked it down as unable to verify employment. They were also unable to verify my start date at my previous employer after requesting a paystub and W2 (neither of which had a start date on it) until I called them and gave them a number to call, and an exact time-frame window of when to call it, ie. normal business hours. All this was happening while also holding a security clearance with the DoD, which I thought was ridiculous. That said, the hiring team knows their 3rd party background check service can be a pain and is understanding if you have hang-ups over small things that shouldn't even be an issue.

I have no issue with the 10 year work history check, but this third party company seems to be a pain in the butt. They were also “unable to very employment” for one of my previous employers as well. Hopefully it all gets worked out before class starts next week..

Brooklyn99 03-13-2023 06:46 PM

stick with it
 

Originally Posted by NewbiePilot11 (Post 3603687)
I have no issue with the 10 year work history check, but this third party company seems to be a pain in the butt. They were also “unable to very employment” for one of my previous employers as well. Hopefully it all gets worked out before class starts next week..

After awhile of back and forth blah the background company called me and after 30 minutes on the phone everything was taken care of. They had me describe some overlapping work history in plain language, took notes, and tweaked the format so it worked out. If you haven't been to prison or arrested they'll sort it out plenty fine. Do not plan on your class date getting delayed. It's more of a 'if you blatantly lied on your background you're fired when/where we find out later'

C340 04-11-2023 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Brooklyn99 (Post 3607286)
After awhile of back and forth blah the background company called me and after 30 minutes on the phone everything was taken care of. They had me describe some overlapping work history in plain language, took notes, and tweaked the format so it worked out. If you haven't been to prison or arrested they'll sort it out plenty fine. Do not plan on your class date getting delayed. It's more of a 'if you blatantly lied on your background you're fired when/where we find out later'

I've been having trouble with the background check companies. I reached out to the Flexjet coordinator with questions, but haven't heard back from them. I've got a lot of self-employment history, on and off, with a couple different businesses. This makes background checks extremely difficult because the forms they issue are fairly rigid and strict in what they require, and some of the documents they request simply do not exist for small businesses. Hopefully this doesn't cause too many problems for me.

TCASfail 04-12-2023 11:03 AM

You need to call HireRight and deal with them on the phone.

C340 04-13-2023 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by TCASfail (Post 3623065)
You need to call HireRight and deal with them on the phone.

Was told by HR that at this point, if there is something Flexjet must have, they will tell me. They said the company has gone through a number of background check organizations - all of whom are kind of...obnoxious - and that the company isn't needing everything that the background check organizations insist on having.

DS23 04-15-2025 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by NewbiePilot11 (Post 3603687)
I have no issue with the 10 year work history check, but this third party company seems to be a pain in the butt. They were also “unable to very employment” for one of my previous employers as well. Hopefully it all gets worked out before class starts next week..

Do any recent FJ hires have feedback on FJ onboarding with respect to background check process and avoiding delays for training? Are there still issues (this thread has complaints of background check agency having trouble with employment verification, etc ) and is the background check completed prior to Indoc, or do new hires attend Indoc and training with background check ongoing? If a CJO is received, is there an option to schedule Indoc and training to allow for enough time to prevent/reduce concern of delayed training described by others in this thread?

Dirty28 06-19-2025 10:01 AM

Flexjet 2025 Onboarding
 
No significant differences than described above, and I completed my onboarding in the last couple of months. I also had a weird flag in my background check regarding employment, but the company didn't care and signed me off. I would say I was more responsible for delays than the company at every turn (availability, then providing notice to my previous employer). If Flexjet assigns you to a class, you'll be able to get the paperwork done in time. Other contacts in the past few months went from interview to training in as little as a week (insane to me).

Edit: forgot to address: Two background checks prior to indoc. First is immediately after being assigned training, the other isn't accomplished until 2-3 weeks before indoc. If you have concerns in your background check, I would be upfront about it because Flexjet definitely will try to rush you to training when possible (in a good way).


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