Multiple questions - considering applying
10-24-2022, 07:29 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Position: Pilot
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive
I’d say first year would be in the ballpark of about 130k. Ish.
First year FO pay is 513/day, and first year captain pay is 650/day. You can upgrade to captain in about 8 months or so.
Figure an average of about 16 days per month (remember, we run 28 day bud periods, so there’s some overlap)
16 X 513 X 8 = 65,664
FO bonus 10% = 6,566
Captain pay: 650 X 16 X 4 = 41,600
Captain bonus 15%= 6,240
Per diem: (42/day for everyone) 42x16x12 = 8,064
Fuel savings bonus (same for everyone): = 4000
Total year one: 132,134
There’s potential to work and earn more. And we get paid OT for any duty beyond 12 hours and also any extra days are paid between 1.5-3x daily rate based on company need. The hourly OT is (daily rate/12)*3. So one hour of OT on first year pay is 128.25.
Pick up a few OT days and you’ll be sitting right at about 140k your first year.
Second year:
2nd year PIC pay is 670/day
So 16 X 670 X 12 = 128,640
PIC bonus 15% = 19,296
Fuel savings bonus = 4000
Per diem = 8,064
Total second year = 160,000
I’m on second year pay and about to make 180k, but I am also working 18 days per month, too. All of our base pay/benefits and everything are calculated at 195 days per year. That comes out to 16.25 days of pay per month.
First year FO pay is 513/day, and first year captain pay is 650/day. You can upgrade to captain in about 8 months or so.
Figure an average of about 16 days per month (remember, we run 28 day bud periods, so there’s some overlap)
16 X 513 X 8 = 65,664
FO bonus 10% = 6,566
Captain pay: 650 X 16 X 4 = 41,600
Captain bonus 15%= 6,240
Per diem: (42/day for everyone) 42x16x12 = 8,064
Fuel savings bonus (same for everyone): = 4000
Total year one: 132,134
There’s potential to work and earn more. And we get paid OT for any duty beyond 12 hours and also any extra days are paid between 1.5-3x daily rate based on company need. The hourly OT is (daily rate/12)*3. So one hour of OT on first year pay is 128.25.
Pick up a few OT days and you’ll be sitting right at about 140k your first year.
Second year:
2nd year PIC pay is 670/day
So 16 X 670 X 12 = 128,640
PIC bonus 15% = 19,296
Fuel savings bonus = 4000
Per diem = 8,064
Total second year = 160,000
I’m on second year pay and about to make 180k, but I am also working 18 days per month, too. All of our base pay/benefits and everything are calculated at 195 days per year. That comes out to 16.25 days of pay per month.
10-27-2022, 07:31 PM
#22
Fly or Die
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 484
Not a material element to picking a job, but I’m genuinely curious on how many points/miles you accumulate at a fractional like Flex and whether you have any say in which airline or hotel chain you’re booked into or fly on for trips. I’m trying to sell my wife on the benefits of earning points/miles to book positive space travel on vs non-rev benefits in the 121 world. Thx in advance!
10-28-2022, 06:52 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 86
Originally Posted by ESQ702
Not a material element to picking a job, but I’m genuinely curious on how many points/miles you accumulate at a fractional like Flex and whether you have any say in which airline or hotel chain you’re booked into or fly on for trips. I’m trying to sell my wife on the benefits of earning points/miles to book positive space travel on vs non-rev benefits in the 121 world. Thx in advance!
10-28-2022, 08:42 AM
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 122
Originally Posted by WiskeyTango
Enough hotel points to never pay for a hotel again. Enough Miles for a couple "free" tickets a year. You'll look back on the Non-rev days and think about how much stress it was.
10-28-2022, 09:45 AM
#25
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Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 440
The Hilton points are amazing. You’ll basically be Diamond for your tenure here.
Airline points will vary based on your domicile (major airline hub vs not) and if you work shorter or longer rotations.
Also, you can take advantage of credit card offers (obviously at your own risk) to get extra airline miles.
Airline points will vary based on your domicile (major airline hub vs not) and if you work shorter or longer rotations.
Also, you can take advantage of credit card offers (obviously at your own risk) to get extra airline miles.
10-29-2022, 12:04 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,280
I was at Flex for one year during Project Lift, so I didn’t get many airline miles, but I ended up with just shy of 500,000 Hilton Points.
I got some sporadic points from other hotels, too. IHG, Marriott, etc, and I’ve used those to get a free night here and there, but the vast majority (obviously) was Hilton.
I got some sporadic points from other hotels, too. IHG, Marriott, etc, and I’ve used those to get a free night here and there, but the vast majority (obviously) was Hilton.
11-03-2022, 03:31 PM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 278
Originally Posted by saltbae
Any rumors of increase pay? Would love to come fly at FlexJet but doesn’t make sense with the pay
11-03-2022, 11:37 PM
#29
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 6
Great info, thanks for sharing.
Any idea on what type or experience they are hiring with for FO positions?
I have my ATP and hours but no real turbine time or type ratings.
Looking to get back into aviation and not interested in the regionals.
Any idea on what type or experience they are hiring with for FO positions?
I have my ATP and hours but no real turbine time or type ratings.
Looking to get back into aviation and not interested in the regionals.
11-09-2022, 08:20 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 61
Originally Posted by canboeair
Great info, thanks for sharing.
Any idea on what type or experience they are hiring with for FO positions?
I have my ATP and hours but no real turbine time or type ratings.
Looking to get back into aviation and not interested in the regionals.
Any idea on what type or experience they are hiring with for FO positions?
I have my ATP and hours but no real turbine time or type ratings.
Looking to get back into aviation and not interested in the regionals.
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