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Old 04-16-2017, 01:35 PM
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I am a mid-30's student pilot in the midst of getting my PPL. Buddy of mine is selling his c-150, and I am interested in purchasing. Looking for someone out of PDK with their private interested in building some hours to fly with me while I continue working towards my license. You get the hours.

Anyone interested, PM me. Would hate to buy and only get to sit in it when I'm paying a CFI. Want to use as much as possible to hone skills and improve.

Also *potentially* open to co-ownership with the right person to cut those time-building costs in half long-term.

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Old 04-16-2017, 02:51 PM
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to fly with me while I continue working towards my license. You get the hours.

Anyone interested, PM me. Would hate to buy and only get to sit in it when I'm paying a CFI. Want to use as much as possible to hone skills and improve.

Also *potentially* open to co-ownership with the right person to cut those time-building costs in half long-term.

Thanks.

As a student pilot YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY PASSENGERS so you may want to rephrase the above statement.
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Old 04-16-2017, 03:39 PM
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As a student pilot YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY PASSENGERS so you may want to rephrase the above statement.

I am aware of this. But so it is clear, the opportunity is for PIC. Left seat. I am not asking for endorsement in my logbook, as only my CFI can do that. The more I fly with others, the more I learn overall.

Hope that clears things up.
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Old 04-16-2017, 04:19 PM
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So what do you plan on learning from flying with a stranger then you wouldn't from a CFI?
Sounds like the horse behind the cart to me.
Sorry for my skepticism but I've instructed for too long.
You're better off getting your certificate then take a flying buddy and fly coast to coast.
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You are indeed way too skeptical. I'm sure it will be hard for you to go back to that time where you knew little or next to nothing about airplanes...flying conditions, thermals, how the working parts function in tandem, how to recognize when something is malfunctioning before it becomes a serious problem, learning to talk to ATC, how to gas up your own plane, and overall putting to use and correlating the stuff you learn in the textbook as often as possible so when you DO take that lesson, you can use each lesson to add an additional layer of knowledge, and not just settle for re-learning everything (as I feel I am doing now). Flying is not something that "clicks" for me. At least not yet. Not sure why you have an issue with someone wanting to learn as much as possible about something that doesn't come easy to them.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:12 PM
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You are indeed way too skeptical. I'm sure it will be hard for you to go back to that time where you knew little or next to nothing about airplanes...flying conditions, thermals, how the working parts function in tandem, how to recognize when something is malfunctioning before it becomes a serious problem, learning to talk to ATC, how to gas up your own plane, and overall putting to use and correlating the stuff you learn in the textbook as often as possible so when you DO take that lesson, you can use each lesson to add an additional layer of knowledge, and not just settle for re-learning everything (as I feel I am doing now). Flying is not something that "clicks" for me. At least not yet. Not sure why you have an issue with someone wanting to learn as much as possible about something that doesn't come easy to them.
Thats why flight instructors exist. How much are you going to learn from having a 60-100 hour private pilot sitting in the left seat? Also, are you offering to just let someone else fly your plane while you observe from the right seat?

The only way for both of you to log time in a C150 is for one of you to be under the hood, or one of you to be a CFi. You cant both go up, split the cost, and both log the time.
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Old 04-16-2017, 11:12 PM
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He didn't offer to split the time.
Yes you can learn by flying with somebody else, also how to not fly.
Law of primacy, learn it the right way.
I've seen the results of 'unofficial' training and it's usual unstructured and not pretty and now somebody needs to fix it.
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Old 04-17-2017, 08:35 AM
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The time would belong to the PIC. That would not be me.

And as a CFI, I get why you believe so strongly in your point of view, but you also know that one size does not fit all. With my work schedule--which is never a set schedule--I use my instructor whenever I can, as often as I can. That's if/when he is available and if the plane is available. Recently, most of my blocked times have coincided with bad weather (which at times, cleared up later in the day). You can see how all of those things can limit someone with a non-standard work week like mine.

In my opinion, and with MY situation, I believe I would benefit greatly by taking what I learn from each lesson and applying it as often as I can. And there are a 100 things I can apply to each of those personal flights that has little to do with actually physically flying the airplane. Navigation with maps/VOR, working on making radio calls, seeing/feeling how the plane reacts in different types of weather conditions, understanding parts/mechanics better. All things, in the end, I feel will make me a better pilot. Hard to do now with a schedule not super conducive to sharing a plane/instructor with many others.

I know its fun to play devils advocate and turn this into something it's not, but there's no reading between the lines here. I have been transparent about what I am looking for.
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:42 AM
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This is the internet.
You ask, we answer.
Feel free to ignore anything we say.
But I'm hearing a little confirmation bias here.
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You're right. It's the internet. And reading comprehension can be difficult. I asked. None of your responses answered my question:

I asked for a pilot with a license who could use some hours. Not an opinion as to why I should or shouldn't go this route. I already got that opinion (and blessing) from the career CFI's at the flight school I work with. Good enough for me, and if you go back and read it, not up for debate in my original post.
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