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Old 06-09-2018, 06:55 AM
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I’m currently active duty AF with 4000 hours TT. I am retiring in a year and have been instructing in a sim for the past 3 years. Can I use my simulator instrument approaches for my approaches flown in the past 6/12 months?
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Yes if you were flying the sim (you need an instructor to sign for the tasks in order to log it in a sim).

No if you were just instructing in the sim.
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Yes if you were flying the sim (you need an instructor to sign for the tasks in order to log it in a sim).
That's not how I interpreted the reference cited.

"A person authorized by the U.S. Armed Forces to conduct instrument flight tests, provided the person being tested is a member of the U.S. Armed Forces;"

In his case, "a person authorized..." needs to conduct the instruction.

I know it's nit picky but here's a Scenario. You are a military pilot with a FAA CFII and you instruct another military pilot in a military simulator but you are not an authorized military Instructor pilot. The way I read the regulation, the instruction is not valid for currency in this case even though the person is an "Instructor".

In these type of inquiries/postings, I find it better to simply cite the sources then give an opinion. Of course we all have a right to our opinions, or do we? The FAR's are under the Code of Federal Regulations. Perhaps one needs to be a licensed attorney to expertly express opinions on federal regulations otherwise one practices law without a license?

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Old 06-11-2018, 09:10 AM
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That's not how I interpreted the reference cited.

"A person authorized by the U.S. Armed Forces to conduct instrument flight tests, provided the person being tested is a member of the U.S. Armed Forces;"

In his case, "a person authorized..." needs to conduct the instruction.

I know it's nit picky but here's a Scenario. You are a military pilot with a FAA CFII and you instruct another military pilot in a military simulator but you are not an authorized military Instructor pilot. The way I read the regulation, the instruction is not valid for currency in this case.

In these type of inquiries/postings, I find it better to simply cite the sources then give an opinion.
Yes, you cannot mix mil and civilian instructors and simulators, so if it's a mil simulator it must be a mil instructor.

By "instructor" I meant someone appropriately qualified to instruct in that sim, whether mil or civilian.

A civilian sim must have a current certification letter from the FAA (they do expire). There's nothing that would prevent any mil organization from getting an certification letter, but they may not bother.

But if it's a civilian type (ex P-8/C-40), the sim in use might very well have an FAA cert letter.
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I’m currently active duty AF with 4000 hours TT. I am retiring in a year and have been instructing in a sim for the past 3 years. Can I use my simulator instrument approaches for my approaches flown in the past 6/12 months?
Keep in mind Civilian Sim Instructors are in short supply, just like pilots. Flight Safety is really hurting, to the point NetJets is having to supply Sim Instructors from their pool of Training Captains. American Airlines is advertising for Sim Instructors, as are at least one of their Wholly owned regionals. Since I've lost my medical I'm looking into Sim jobs. American has a Sim Center 10 miles from my house and I've applied there. But I have no IP time so not sure I'll hear from them.

At Flight Safety you teach groundschool and do Sims. Makes for some long days. Last I've heard starting pay was above $80K/yr, and you're home every night.

At American, all you do is Sim instruct. You can choose 17-20 days per month schedule. You can even bid reserve as part of those days and get to stay home if not used. Work day is 6.5 hours long, 2 hour prebrief, 4 hour Sim with break after 2 hours, and 15-30 min debrief. 1st year pay is low $60's, 2nd year in the $70's, 3rd year mid $80's. By 11 years you'll easily make over $150K, and again that's working 6.5 hours per day and sleeping in your own bed every night. And you've got your military retirement on top of that. I'll paste a link to their contract below. You have Union protections so pretty good job security.

Regional to a major airline will definitely pay more in the long run if you don't mind the time away from home.

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/b9d21...9e195eacb7.pdf
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Keep in mind Civilian Sim Instructors are in short supply, just like pilots. Flight Safety is really hurting, to the point NetJets is having to supply Sim Instructors from their pool of Training Captains. American Airlines is advertising for Sim Instructors, as are at least one of their Wholly owned regionals. Since I've lost my medical I'm looking into Sim jobs. American has a Sim Center 10 miles from my house and I've applied there. But I have no IP time so not sure I'll hear from them.

At Flight Safety you teach groundschool and do Sims. Makes for some long days. Last I've heard starting pay was above $80K/yr, and you're home every night.

At American, all you do is Sim instruct. You can choose 17-20 days per month schedule. You can even bid reserve as part of those days and get to stay home if not used. Work day is 6.5 hours long, 2 hour prebrief, 4 hour Sim with break after 2 hours, and 15-30 min debrief. 1st year pay is low $60's, 2nd year in the $70's, 3rd year mid $80's. By 11 years you'll easily make over $150K, and again that's working 6.5 hours per day and sleeping in your own bed every night. And you've got your military retirement on top of that. I'll paste a link to their contract below. You have Union protections so pretty good job security.

Regional to a major airline will definitely pay more in the long run if you don't mind the time away from home.

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/b9d21...9e195eacb7.pdf
I don't think that's what he was asking. He can $150K by year two at any legacy.
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Thanks for the info. I instruct primarily but I also fly about 2/week. I guess I will put that I flew 35 in the past 6 months and bring my print out and a memo signed by another instructor if-when I get an interview.
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