Ratings Question
12-22-2007, 01:46 PM
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Ratings Question
I read on here how everyone gets ppl,inst., multi, cfi, and so on. I am in the process of getting my private license to have as a hobby. Can I go straight from private and get my multi engine rating or do I have to have my insturment? or would it be benificial to have inst. before my multi. thanks for the info.
12-22-2007, 02:22 PM
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Yes you can do multi engine training and with a multi engine checkride turn your certificate into a private single multi.
That really depends on what order to do them in. You likely won't be able to rent a twin unles you know someone or theres a good deal in your local area so I'd do it as pvt single --> instrument ratng --> multi. the instrument rating will lower your insurance rates and give you alot of useful and necessary training (makes you a better pilot overall even if you arent operating under IFR).
That really depends on what order to do them in. You likely won't be able to rent a twin unles you know someone or theres a good deal in your local area so I'd do it as pvt single --> instrument ratng --> multi. the instrument rating will lower your insurance rates and give you alot of useful and necessary training (makes you a better pilot overall even if you arent operating under IFR).
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12-22-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by patton33
Yes you can do multi engine training and with a multi engine checkride turn your certificate into a private single multi.
That really depends on what order to do them in. You likely won't be able to rent a twin unles you know someone or theres a good deal in your local area so I'd do it as pvt single --> instrument ratng --> multi. the instrument rating will lower your insurance rates and give you alot of useful and necessary training (makes you a better pilot overall even if you arent operating under IFR).
That really depends on what order to do them in. You likely won't be able to rent a twin unles you know someone or theres a good deal in your local area so I'd do it as pvt single --> instrument ratng --> multi. the instrument rating will lower your insurance rates and give you alot of useful and necessary training (makes you a better pilot overall even if you arent operating under IFR).
This is what I did. Private Single-->Private Multi--> Multi Instrument---> (and now Im doing my Multi Commercial w/ Single Addon) Is a more expensive route
12-24-2007, 05:40 AM
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The way I did mine was Private, private multi, instrument, comm, ect.... I know some places will not rent a twin to you unless you have 25+ hours in make and model and some require an instrument rating also. In my opinion since you want to do this as a hobby and not a career it may be more beneficial to get your instrument rating first and THEN get your multi add on.
Spend the time now developing your skills in an aircraft that you are already familiar with and get really good at it. Then when you move up to bigger and faster planes you will already have a good skill set and the transition will be smooth. Hope this helps.
Spend the time now developing your skills in an aircraft that you are already familiar with and get really good at it. Then when you move up to bigger and faster planes you will already have a good skill set and the transition will be smooth. Hope this helps.
12-24-2007, 05:51 AM
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There is nothing wrong with that at all. Here is how I did it in order...
Private -- Private Multi add on -- Instrument -- Commercial multi -- MEI -- CFII -- Commercial Single add on -- CFI Single Engine
There are tons of ways to mix and match, but alot of it has to do with what you want to do (if its a career). If you want to go airlines multi time is a good thing to have, so commercial multi is a good thing to get first (that way you build a decent amount of multi time).
Private -- Private Multi add on -- Instrument -- Commercial multi -- MEI -- CFII -- Commercial Single add on -- CFI Single Engine
There are tons of ways to mix and match, but alot of it has to do with what you want to do (if its a career). If you want to go airlines multi time is a good thing to have, so commercial multi is a good thing to get first (that way you build a decent amount of multi time).
12-24-2007, 05:55 AM
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yea the program I'm signed up for is designed to get me a decent amount of multi time, that's why the commercial initial is multi =)
then after all of that comes the cfi/cfii/mei stuff, not sure which of those to do first
then after all of that comes the cfi/cfii/mei stuff, not sure which of those to do first
12-24-2007, 09:06 AM
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well here is one way to look at it.... Whichever of those 3 that you have the best knowledge should be your first instructor checkride. The initial is the hardest one. Typically the oral is anywhere from 2-9 hours (from people ive known who have taken it). It sounds intimidating, but if you study your butt off you wont have a problem... but dont even think about those til you get your instrument and commercial ratings.
I found that for me the MEI first was a great place to start because I understand the multi engine aerodynamics very well. my oral was not very long. Then I did CFII cause I am real strong on instruments. Finally did CFI to finish it off. This may or may not work for you.
I found that for me the MEI first was a great place to start because I understand the multi engine aerodynamics very well. my oral was not very long. Then I did CFII cause I am real strong on instruments. Finally did CFI to finish it off. This may or may not work for you.
12-24-2007, 08:00 PM
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We do it the other way. Private/Instrument, Commercial, Multi, and CFI, then CFII and ME whenever you have time and money. By the time we get done, you have about 250 single engine and 10 multi so the CFI is the norm (although we're multi-commercial rated).
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