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#21
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Originally Posted by edik
AVBUG,
You made some good points, but this
"Grand Forks ND is head and shoulders above SOCAL a better place to be and live."
Is 100%BS, come on man, who are you kidding? Have you lived in SOCAL (not visited, lived)? I have been in GF for two years, and I have not found one thing better here then SOCAL (except I don’t have to worry about hitting a mountain when I flying). No but the occaisional dear on the runway will ruin your day!
GF is a good flight experience, but I would not even consider comparing the two.
You made some good points, but this
"Grand Forks ND is head and shoulders above SOCAL a better place to be and live."
Is 100%BS, come on man, who are you kidding? Have you lived in SOCAL (not visited, lived)? I have been in GF for two years, and I have not found one thing better here then SOCAL (except I don’t have to worry about hitting a mountain when I flying). No but the occaisional dear on the runway will ruin your day!
GF is a good flight experience, but I would not even consider comparing the two.
You're right, I broke my own rule. GF is the place for ME! I spend a lot of time in LAX and I cannot stand SOCAL. The people are what break it for me. Sure NOV to FEB in GF is cold but the rest of the year is great, plenty to do outdoors (ie no stupid clubs to go to) and frankly it's the best place/area in the country to raise a family, good schools, safe enviroment, low cost of living coupled with plenty of high quality homes/apartments. How much of a house will 200K get you in SOCAL as compared to GFK? What's the student to teacher ratio at the average school? How far do you have to drive to go camping and not be able to see or hear the city?
SOCAL may have really nice weather and all but for me it's the family side of it, community and schools that matter.
#22
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avbug,
Once again you made some good points. I guess it is all about where you grow up. I have always lived in big cities (St. Petersburg and Orange County). Orange County is much different from LA, I can see why you dint like it there. Personally I have never lived in LA, just Orange County (that is still SOCAL though). Obviously you got to give some in order to get something back, for example you have the ocean which attracts a lot of people. Resulting in small amount of wild life (unless you want to drive 3-6hrs). I guess it is all about the environment you go up in.
Edik
Once again you made some good points. I guess it is all about where you grow up. I have always lived in big cities (St. Petersburg and Orange County). Orange County is much different from LA, I can see why you dint like it there. Personally I have never lived in LA, just Orange County (that is still SOCAL though). Obviously you got to give some in order to get something back, for example you have the ocean which attracts a lot of people. Resulting in small amount of wild life (unless you want to drive 3-6hrs). I guess it is all about the environment you go up in.
Edik
#23
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Originally Posted by edik
avbug,
Once again you made some good points. I guess it is all about where you grow up. I have always lived in big cities (St. Petersburg and Orange County). Orange County is much different from LA, I can see why you dint like it there. Personally I have never lived in LA, just Orange County (that is still SOCAL though). Obviously you got to give some in order to get something back, for example you have the ocean which attracts a lot of people. Resulting in small amount of wild life (unless you want to drive 3-6hrs). I guess it is all about the environment you go up in.
Edik
Once again you made some good points. I guess it is all about where you grow up. I have always lived in big cities (St. Petersburg and Orange County). Orange County is much different from LA, I can see why you dint like it there. Personally I have never lived in LA, just Orange County (that is still SOCAL though). Obviously you got to give some in order to get something back, for example you have the ocean which attracts a lot of people. Resulting in small amount of wild life (unless you want to drive 3-6hrs). I guess it is all about the environment you go up in.
Edik
When I was living in GFK (I was raised about 45 miles west of GFK) I actually hated it, too cold, not enough to do (clubs etc) but I spent some time in other parts of the country and realized what a great place ND and the whole upper midwest is and came flying back at mach 2.
It is all personnal pref, and you will rarely hear anyone from GFK bash someone else about where they are from, can you say the same for the opposite? I think that in itself speaks volumes.
ps
I live on the atlantic ocean for almost 2 years, and I can say I really really liked it, BUT the trade off was a **** poor community and no place to raise a family. I also have a deal with sharks, they stay out of the bars, I stay out of the ocean. I haven't seen any sharks in the bar yet!
Last edited by avbug; 01-30-2006 at 10:49 AM.
#25
Hey all of you UND grads....
I'm a UND grad myself with a business degree. I took a semester off after graduation and returned to UND and am currently doing only the flying classes as a part time student, pursuing a professional flight minor. I would like to go up to at least my CFII at UND and hopefully someday flight instruct at UND.
My question is, will the airlines look at me as a "UND GRAD" when it comes to lower mins like you guys have been talking about, because I have been throught the flight program at UND?
any advice is appreciated
thanks everyone!
ps
I was born and raised in north central North Dakota. To all of you thinking about coming to UND...the most important thing that you will take away from UND is a hard, midwestern work ethic, perseverance, and a great personality, which are the cornerstones for whatever kind of training or career that you pursue.
I'm a UND grad myself with a business degree. I took a semester off after graduation and returned to UND and am currently doing only the flying classes as a part time student, pursuing a professional flight minor. I would like to go up to at least my CFII at UND and hopefully someday flight instruct at UND.
My question is, will the airlines look at me as a "UND GRAD" when it comes to lower mins like you guys have been talking about, because I have been throught the flight program at UND?
any advice is appreciated
thanks everyone!
ps
I was born and raised in north central North Dakota. To all of you thinking about coming to UND...the most important thing that you will take away from UND is a hard, midwestern work ethic, perseverance, and a great personality, which are the cornerstones for whatever kind of training or career that you pursue.
#26
http://studentservices.aero.und.edu/...ight/index.php
Thats the current job postings page. Horizon, American Eagle, and Piedmont have all lowered their mins for UND grads. Skyways was here 2 weeks ago and took 11, I'm not sure if they lowered their mins or not. It looks like Air Wisconsin might have lowered their mins too-UND's site says they looking for a lot fewer hours then what APC is saying, I'm not positive on that one though.
Thats the current job postings page. Horizon, American Eagle, and Piedmont have all lowered their mins for UND grads. Skyways was here 2 weeks ago and took 11, I'm not sure if they lowered their mins or not. It looks like Air Wisconsin might have lowered their mins too-UND's site says they looking for a lot fewer hours then what APC is saying, I'm not positive on that one though.
Last edited by JMT21; 01-31-2006 at 06:51 PM.
#28
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 36
Gfk
Its funny that website says American Eagle takes only UND Alums with 500tt and 100ME, They hired 3 from Regional Airline Academy with those same numbers a few weeks ago. No way I'm waiting 8 years to upgrade. I also grew up around GFK, well Moorhead to be specific. Great place to live around, especially if you like hockey. I didn't want to go to a 4 year school right away otherwise UND would have been my choice. I also couldn't stand having to be around Sioux hockey fans all the time. The only real team is the Gophers, only kidding.
#29
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
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Posts: 177
Originally Posted by avbug
You're right, I broke my own rule. GF is the place for ME! I spend a lot of time in LAX and I cannot stand SOCAL. The people are what break it for me. Sure NOV to FEB in GF is cold but the rest of the year is great, plenty to do outdoors (ie no stupid clubs to go to) and frankly it's the best place/area in the country to raise a family, good schools, safe enviroment, low cost of living coupled with plenty of high quality homes/apartments. How much of a house will 200K get you in SOCAL as compared to GFK? What's the student to teacher ratio at the average school? How far do you have to drive to go camping and not be able to see or hear the city?
SOCAL may have really nice weather and all but for me it's the family side of it, community and schools that matter.
SOCAL may have really nice weather and all but for me it's the family side of it, community and schools that matter.
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