Local FBO vs UND
05-05-2008, 12:24 PM
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UND is just another flight school but it has personally worked out great for me. I flew in the part 61 and 141 environment (part 61 around a class B). Both were great experiences but I feel like that fact that UND (just as any 141 school will do) will help you keep on a set schedule and has set cirriculm which helped me progress in a timley manner. This is just my personal preference and I realize everyone learns differently and has different preferences.
As far as the networking, yea it may help you get your first job but after that you can meet people that will help you get future jobs anywhere you go.
If I could do it all over again I would go to UND but major in nothing involving Aviation (maybe accounting or finance or whatever) and then just do the professional flight minor and get as many certificates your heart desires. Grand Forks is cold and sucks at times but hey it has an universities with girls and booze the same as any other.
Besty of luck in your descision!
As far as the networking, yea it may help you get your first job but after that you can meet people that will help you get future jobs anywhere you go.
If I could do it all over again I would go to UND but major in nothing involving Aviation (maybe accounting or finance or whatever) and then just do the professional flight minor and get as many certificates your heart desires. Grand Forks is cold and sucks at times but hey it has an universities with girls and booze the same as any other.
Besty of luck in your descision!
05-05-2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredwLife
This is the exact reason I hated UND. They all believe that UND is the only good place to learn to fly. The Ground classes i.e. Aerodynamics, weather, turbine systems etc. are amazing and give you a slightly better understanding of the airline industry. But getting an aviation degree is a waste of time and money. Go to UofM and get a degree and fly at the FBO. In my personal opinion people who do their entire flying at UND make great pilots when they are putt-ing around in the Grand Forks bubble. But the have a "Aviation Culture Shock" When they move on and fly outside of it. For example we had 2 instructors at my school that did all their training in UND. Both got lost and both busted Class B within 2 weeks.
One idea would be to get everything up to commercial at the FBO, then go to UND and get your CFI/II. I think it is good to be well-rounded in your flight training and instructing.
05-05-2008, 01:39 PM
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UND = Overrated. I learned more about flying in my first year flying part 135 freight than I did at UND. UND is in a safety conscious unrealistic bubble. There is constant pressure to complete lessons, but there are also strict restrictions about what conditions you can fly in. This was frustrating as student and an instructor. UND almost made me want to give up flying. It wasn't until I left that I truly began to enjoy flying. In Some cases a UND degree looks good on the resume, but it isn't worth the money. You will make friends and network with other pilots where ever you do your flight training. The non-aviation degree is also a good idea. Read the AIM and other FAA books on your own time. Don't spend 4 years learning the same stuff over and over again. Most people on pilot hiring boards would probably be more impressed by some sort engineering degree anyway.
05-05-2008, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredwLife
This is the exact reason I hated UND. They all believe that UND is the only good place to learn to fly. The Ground classes i.e. Aerodynamics, weather, turbine systems etc. are amazing and give you a slightly better understanding of the airline industry. But getting an aviation degree is a waste of time and money. Go to UofM and get a degree and fly at the FBO. In my personal opinion people who do their entire flying at UND make great pilots when they are putt-ing around in the Grand Forks bubble. But the have a "Aviation Culture Shock" When they move on and fly outside of it. For example we had 2 instructors at my school that did all their training in UND. Both got lost and both busted Class B within 2 weeks.
P.S. I am a UND grad and I disliked it so much I quit flying after college and thought I would never touch an airplane again.
P.S. I am a UND grad and I disliked it so much I quit flying after college and thought I would never touch an airplane again.
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