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Old 06-26-2008, 12:26 PM   #31  
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It is in the company OPSPEC that a two pilot crew that IS required for them. And I'm not logging SIC or PIC for that matter....just total time and ME(turbine when applicable)....because the company requires my presence in the cockpit
It doesn't matter what the "Company OPSPEC" says. The Operations Specifications is a manual required for any air carrier of more than one pilot and aircraft (121,135 for example). It specifically describes what said air carrier is and is not allowed to do. A part 91 flight department is not required to have an OPSPEC unless they also charter their aircraft (135). Your part 91 company manual can outline anything it wants, but is not bound by regulation, therefore, you can not legally log any time as a "company required sic." If you continue with this practice your going to get called out at an interview one day. It would really suck to put years and years of time and effort in to getting an interview for your dream job and then have them notice BS time in your log and send you packing.

It's funny that the one thing you seem so against, geting your CFI,II,MEI, could be your salvation. As long as the other pilot was willing to receive dual, you could log PIC dual given if you had your MEI. Though most wouldn't buy that you were giving dual in a turboprop at 300 hours. Better yet, if the PIC is a current MEI, ask him if he would be willing to give you dual. Again, you could then log it as PIC. That method would be much better on the assumption that you are in fact learning.

Folks here are just trying to keep you from getting burned. Your flight time should be self explanatory, if you find yourself having to explain it, your in trouble. Good Luck!
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What everyone else is saying. This time is not loggable. You also (and this is seperate) don't want a logbook with entries that show no PIC, SIC, dual, etc.

If the PIC is an MEI they could give you dual. I wouldn't do more than a few hours of this, though. Put it this way. If someone came to me with a resume with 600 hours of dual received in a Cheyenne, that person would not be getting a job.

Just trying to help you out, man. Better to go find something else than waste your time.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:15 AM   #33  
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What everyone else is saying. This time is not loggable. You also (and this is seperate) don't want a logbook with entries that show no PIC, SIC, dual, etc.

If the PIC is an MEI they could give you dual. I wouldn't do more than a few hours of this, though. Put it this way. If someone came to me with a resume with 600 hours of dual received in a Cheyenne, that person would not be getting a job.

Just trying to help you out, man. Better to go find something else than waste your time.
Both of the pilots are MEI's, and I have logged some dual received with them. Im not looking to keep this job forever, just for a few months to get a little multi time build up. I have been looking for other stuff to do, but its slim pickings and leaning towards getting the cfi/cfii and mei
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Both of the pilots are MEI's, and I have logged some dual received with them. Im not looking to keep this job forever, just for a few months to get a little multi time build up.
If thats the case you can only log the time if you are ME rated. If so, then all of that time has to be 'dual recived.' You cant log total time if you do not log either PIC, SIC, or dual. If you are just flying the plane (logginn total time), and not reciving dual (whch yyou cant do), then you must have your high altitude endorcment, if the A/C is certified above flight level 250 (i thinks it's 250).
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Both of the pilots are MEI's, and I have logged some dual received with them. Im not looking to keep this job forever, just for a few months to get a little multi time build up. I have been looking for other stuff to do, but its slim pickings and leaning towards getting the cfi/cfii and mei
My suggestion is to get a CFI job and learn about the FARs with respect to logging flight time. Unless your going to apply to the company that you now work for, the flight time you currently log is worthless under the FARs.

If your not logging PIC, what are you logging? You're getting some good advice in this thread, but you're lying to yourself if you think you're building total time that any prosepctive employer will accept.
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