Question: Free flight school...
12-09-2008, 11:33 PM
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Question: Free flight school...
Hello,
Vietnam Airlines will pay me 100% for my school in USA, but i have to sign contract & work with them for 5 years and my monthly income is STARTING OUT at $1,500 USD per month. I start working with them immediately after i finished my school (CPL, IR, MCC, ATPL...), its gonna take around 24 months at fly school in USA + fly school in Vietnam. Total they have to pay $120,000 USD, do yah think thats good for $1,500/month (start out) for 5 years contract ? What if i signed the contract but i don't work for them ? i go look for a different airline in USA is that ok ? or do they gonna take me to court & make me pay back $120,000 USD ?
Thanks alot every1.
Vietnam Airlines will pay me 100% for my school in USA, but i have to sign contract & work with them for 5 years and my monthly income is STARTING OUT at $1,500 USD per month. I start working with them immediately after i finished my school (CPL, IR, MCC, ATPL...), its gonna take around 24 months at fly school in USA + fly school in Vietnam. Total they have to pay $120,000 USD, do yah think thats good for $1,500/month (start out) for 5 years contract ? What if i signed the contract but i don't work for them ? i go look for a different airline in USA is that ok ? or do they gonna take me to court & make me pay back $120,000 USD ?
Thanks alot every1.
12-10-2008, 03:24 AM
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I can see why you'd be tempted, but I wouldn't do it because that's not much money in the United States. I can't say how far $1.2k per month goes in Vietnam but you can't live on that here for very long. I would also be very reluctant to lock in my wages without cost of living increases and raises for performance, even if it was Vietnam.
Another thing is, if you are talking about FAA licenses, requirement for an ATP includes at least 1500 flight hours. You would have to go somewhere and fly for a year to get it.
Another comment is, $120k for a multiengine instrument commercial license is outrageous. I paid about $35k for all my flight training from zero to CFI including ME, instrument, tailwheel, high performance, G1000, etc. Good luck.
Another thing is, if you are talking about FAA licenses, requirement for an ATP includes at least 1500 flight hours. You would have to go somewhere and fly for a year to get it.
Another comment is, $120k for a multiengine instrument commercial license is outrageous. I paid about $35k for all my flight training from zero to CFI including ME, instrument, tailwheel, high performance, G1000, etc. Good luck.
12-10-2008, 07:38 AM
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It might be worth doing if...
1) The flight school includes 1500 hours and an ATP...for $120K it should.
2) The starting wage ramps up quickly, like say a big raise in one year. $1200 is not much more than you would make at many US regionals the first year...and they don't pay for your training. It will help if $1200 goes a long way over there, you will have to research that.
3) You are either from SE Asia, or you have travelled there and are comfortable that you would be happy living there. Ho Chi Min City actually has a resaonable ex-patriate night life, IIRC.
For that kind of money, they will have an airtight contract...you will have to pay it back if you don't complete your end of the deal.
1) The flight school includes 1500 hours and an ATP...for $120K it should.
2) The starting wage ramps up quickly, like say a big raise in one year. $1200 is not much more than you would make at many US regionals the first year...and they don't pay for your training. It will help if $1200 goes a long way over there, you will have to research that.
3) You are either from SE Asia, or you have travelled there and are comfortable that you would be happy living there. Ho Chi Min City actually has a resaonable ex-patriate night life, IIRC.
For that kind of money, they will have an airtight contract...you will have to pay it back if you don't complete your end of the deal.
12-10-2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000
What if i signed the contract but i don't work for them ? i go look for a different airline in USA is that ok ? or do they gonna take me to court & make me pay back $120,000 USD ?
Thanks alot every1.
Thanks alot every1.
To me, it speaks poorly of your integrity that you're considering accepting a contract, and PLANNING to break the contract. Signing a contract is giving your word, and that should mean something.
My $.02. Best of luck.
12-15-2008, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000
Hello,
Vietnam Airlines will pay me 100% for my school in USA, but i have to sign contract & work with them for 5 years and my monthly income is STARTING OUT at $1,500 USD per month. I start working with them immediately after i finished my school (CPL, IR, MCC, ATPL...), its gonna take around 24 months at fly school in USA + fly school in Vietnam. Total they have to pay $120,000 USD, do yah think thats good for $1,500/month (start out) for 5 years contract ? What if i signed the contract but i don't work for them ? i go look for a different airline in USA is that ok ? or do they gonna take me to court & make me pay back $120,000 USD ?
Thanks alot every1.
Vietnam Airlines will pay me 100% for my school in USA, but i have to sign contract & work with them for 5 years and my monthly income is STARTING OUT at $1,500 USD per month. I start working with them immediately after i finished my school (CPL, IR, MCC, ATPL...), its gonna take around 24 months at fly school in USA + fly school in Vietnam. Total they have to pay $120,000 USD, do yah think thats good for $1,500/month (start out) for 5 years contract ? What if i signed the contract but i don't work for them ? i go look for a different airline in USA is that ok ? or do they gonna take me to court & make me pay back $120,000 USD ?
Thanks alot every1.
That sounds like a good deal to me. If I were you I'd go for it, you're very lucky getting offered free flight training. I don't know much about the cost of living in Vietnam, but I did work in China and the Philippines for 2000 usd/month in china and 1400 usd/month in the Philippines and that was way more than enough (lodging was paid by the company though), so I guess it's still a good deal. It's always hard getting your 1st job with the airlines so if you got something lined up with Vietnam Airlines and they pay your training i'd say... go for it !!! Let me know if you're looking for a flight school in the US. I'm working for one (where I got my training 7 years ago) and it's just a great place to train.
Good on you mate.
Laurent
12-15-2008, 01:51 PM
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for the other question, just start working for them, build up your hours on jet and then you can move to another airline. Nowadays it's getting difficult to get a job with the airline unless you have turbine or jet time, so i believe that this is definitely you best option. Plus in the US if you want to work for anybody here, you need to have the right to work in the US, which might be very difficult to obtain, take a lot of time and money.
03-25-2009, 01:49 PM
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If i was you, I would go for the training with VNA, get done with the training and then started working with them. I believe the contract is 10 years, not 5. So try to move up to A320 or B772 during that time, build your jet hours. Once you're done with the contract, you'll be way competitive, you can then choose to continue to work for them or look for employment elsewhere.
Just a side note: $1500/month is way too much in Vietnam. New grad. with a bachelor degree earns around $2-400/month.
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Just a side note: $1500/month is way too much in Vietnam. New grad. with a bachelor degree earns around $2-400/month.
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03-01-2014, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
I can see why you'd be tempted, but I wouldn't do it because that's not much money in the United States. I can't say how far $1.2k per month goes in Vietnam but you can't live on that here for very long. I would also be very reluctant to lock in my wages without cost of living increases and raises for performance, even if it was Vietnam.
Another thing is, if you are talking about FAA licenses, requirement for an ATP includes at least 1500 flight hours. You would have to go somewhere and fly for a year to get it.
Another comment is, $120k for a multiengine instrument commercial license is outrageous. I paid about $35k for all my flight training from zero to CFI including ME, instrument, tailwheel, high performance, G1000, etc. Good luck.
Another thing is, if you are talking about FAA licenses, requirement for an ATP includes at least 1500 flight hours. You would have to go somewhere and fly for a year to get it.
Another comment is, $120k for a multiengine instrument commercial license is outrageous. I paid about $35k for all my flight training from zero to CFI including ME, instrument, tailwheel, high performance, G1000, etc. Good luck.
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