CFI Pay question!
#1
I'm about to finish up commercial single soon. I'm deciding if I should get my CFI now or when someone's actually hiring CFIs (save money now, fresh memory). Second, how does the CFI pay work? For example, I'm paying $35/ hour for my CFI. Does he keep the whole $35, or does the flight school decide how much the CFI keeps? Does he pay some kind of tax on the money?
Thanks,
Tony
Thanks,
Tony
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I'm about to finish up commercial single soon. I'm deciding if I should get my CFI now or when someone's actually hiring CFIs (save money now, fresh memory). Second, how does the CFI pay work? For example, I'm paying $35/ hour for my CFI. Does he keep the whole $35, or does the flight school decide how much the CFI keeps? Does he pay some kind of tax on the money?
) allows.If the student writes one check to the flight school, the school is going to keep some (or most) of the CFI charge. The instructor will either get a W-2 or 1099 depending on how he's employed there. It'd be taxable, plus FICA (or self-employment tax on the 1099).
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#3
When I was teaching, my flight school charged 45 an hour for instruction. We kept 25 of it. It worked out to about 21.50 per hour after taxes. Wasn't bad really since I did it part time, I could work 10 hours over the weekend and have enough beer money for the month and cover gas when it was 4.35 a gallon for super.
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Different schools have different situations.
I instructed at a small mom and pop FBO and they charged $30 an hour and I got $12-$14.
Then I went to an academy type run by an airline and I got $15-$17.
In between those two jobs I freelanced and got $30-$40.
So it all depends, look carefully at the terms of employment you are offered and question what looks like B.S. to you.
Good luck.
I instructed at a small mom and pop FBO and they charged $30 an hour and I got $12-$14.
Then I went to an academy type run by an airline and I got $15-$17.
In between those two jobs I freelanced and got $30-$40.
So it all depends, look carefully at the terms of employment you are offered and question what looks like B.S. to you.
Good luck.
#5
Indeed it depends on where and how you work as a CFI.
When I was growing up through the ratings, the CFI I had for solo owned his airplanes and charged about $50/hr for a 10-hour block of time (C-150 rates back in the day, well, not that far back. His C172 was $75/hr for a 10-hour block I believe, but it broke so I settled with the C150).
After soloing in California during the summer, I continued my PVT at Benson, AZ where the FBO owned the aircraft and I paid my CFI and the aircraft seperately. I believe my CFI had to give $5/hr to the FBO for insurance, the rest he kept. I believe he charged me a total of $25/hr (he was an older gentleman who truly enjoyed fliying and wasn't looking to time build or make flying his sole source of revenue, he owned a gas station at the time.)
Then I continued my ratings at ERAU-PRC, where I now am CFI-ing. I am paid $16.08/hr of contact time plus $100 per two-week pay period to count for the time I spend working while not in contact with a student. $16.08 is starting pay for a CFI with less than 750hr dual given and at least a Bachelor's degree. Students currently pay the school $51/hr for me. However, if I gain at least 50 hours of contact time in a pay period, I get a 15% raise. For at least 60 hours of contact time in a pay period, I'll get a 25% raise. So, as long as I have students and can get them on the schedule, it works out to be not that bad of pay, especially whilest living with two other roommates. When I got my W-2's, considering the total amount of contact time for what I grossed, it came out to $20-21/hr before taxes.
When I was growing up through the ratings, the CFI I had for solo owned his airplanes and charged about $50/hr for a 10-hour block of time (C-150 rates back in the day, well, not that far back. His C172 was $75/hr for a 10-hour block I believe, but it broke so I settled with the C150).
After soloing in California during the summer, I continued my PVT at Benson, AZ where the FBO owned the aircraft and I paid my CFI and the aircraft seperately. I believe my CFI had to give $5/hr to the FBO for insurance, the rest he kept. I believe he charged me a total of $25/hr (he was an older gentleman who truly enjoyed fliying and wasn't looking to time build or make flying his sole source of revenue, he owned a gas station at the time.)
Then I continued my ratings at ERAU-PRC, where I now am CFI-ing. I am paid $16.08/hr of contact time plus $100 per two-week pay period to count for the time I spend working while not in contact with a student. $16.08 is starting pay for a CFI with less than 750hr dual given and at least a Bachelor's degree. Students currently pay the school $51/hr for me. However, if I gain at least 50 hours of contact time in a pay period, I get a 15% raise. For at least 60 hours of contact time in a pay period, I'll get a 25% raise. So, as long as I have students and can get them on the schedule, it works out to be not that bad of pay, especially whilest living with two other roommates. When I got my W-2's, considering the total amount of contact time for what I grossed, it came out to $20-21/hr before taxes.
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Get your CFI and go to a school where you want to teach and might have a chance on getting on with them, even if it is part time. When you go there tell them you want to work on your CFI-I. This will let them see and get to know you. This is a big help since most flight schools like to hire in house. Try to get on no matter what, even if it is part time, can always get a job bagging groceries to make the bills. This is what I did and after a few months of living on PB and Js I had enough students that I didnt need to work at the local grocery store.
Try to stand out when doing you CFI-I and be really knowledgeable so they will want to hire you even more.
Try to stand out when doing you CFI-I and be really knowledgeable so they will want to hire you even more.
#8
I am going to have to agree that getting my CFI was the best thing I ever did. I got hired into a job where all I needed was a commercial single. However, I am now doing a side job of part time flight instructing making 100% of the flight instructor fee. Got to ride in a King Air C90 all weekend to get my 5 hours PIC then gave a flight check for someone. I'm living a frickin dream and I owe it all to getting my flight instructor certificates.
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