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Old 08-08-2008, 07:53 PM
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so basically i was wondering on average how much flight time their CFIs get in a month...also they say full-time pay at entry level is around $14.50..is that hourly or flight hourly and do they work 40 hours a week or weekends too? One last question...do they really offer 100% tuition to their CFIs?

ps anyone who has been a CFI for them...is it worth it? and how is daytona beach party scene haha.
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Old 08-09-2008, 11:47 AM
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ps anyone who has been a CFI for them...is it worth it? and how is daytona beach party scene haha.
you mean the white trash bikers left over from spring break 1970?
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They may have raised the pay but last year the starting pay was $10.50 per hour, which pales in comparison to other schools in the area. However the benefits an perks do make it worth it.
Amount of flight time depends on the season. You will probably credit at least 80-100 hours in a month during the fall and spring semesters but the downside is that about 1/3 of that will be simulator time not flight time. You do get paid for the time you are with the student so it includes ground instruction.
Everybody gets two days off a week depending on the month and what team you are on. One month half the teams will take Sat and Sun off and the other teams will take Sun and Mon off then next month they switch. You may work on your days off as long as you take one day off per week and depending on who your team manager is they can be flexible with personal leave as well. As long as you are flying each of your students 2-3 times a week they are pretty flexible.
Scheduling is done by the instructor not the student. The student schedules themselves for a block of time between classes each semester but you can schedule them outside of that with their permission. When I left last year they were talking about going to an automated scheduling system which would take the discretion away from both the student and instructor.

As for the perks... Full benefits, health, dental, vision, 401K, etc (there is even an optional pilots union). There is also a club where you can rent a 1970N 172 for $45 an hour wet. You get up to 6 credits of free tuition a semester for you and your dependents. That's basically a part time student. Full time student would be 11-16. Also when I left they were offering a deal that if you signed a 1 year contract then you could get, $3500, or $2500 and an MEI, or $2500 and a CRJ course or $1500 and both the CRJ and MEI courses. Although this was when they were desperate to keep instructors because every day an instructor was leaving for the airlines.
Even when they are desperate for instructors it's very competitive to get a job there and very difficult if you did your training outside of Riddle.

As for the Daytona party scene hslightnin is right on. It's pretty trashy. For a couple of months during spring it can get pretty crazy. The rest of the year you will want to do anything to get out of Daytona because it is very very white trash, NASCAR loving, beer drinking rednecks. If you come to Daytona to party you will be sorely disappointed. Orlando isn't too bad though. Good Luck on your decision, hope the info helps.
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Doesn't sound like where anyone but a time builder would want to work, although I appreciate your honesty. If I were looking for a good job as a flight instructor I would keep looking because there are better towns to live in. E-R has other campuses also. I hear Prescott is a better place to live.

One thing about the Daytona campus though is Down Under Seafood Restaurant. It's under a bridge somewhere down there. Great place to eat; fresh seafood is out of this world. You could flight instruct during the day, eat there two or three times a week and leave with a thousand hours after less than two years. Who wouldn't go for that?
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Pay is currently something along the lines of 15 an hour but thats only contact time, you'll spend considerable amount of time doing required job functions that you arent paid for. You'll spend approximately 10-12 hours a day at the flight line for 5 days a week, and then probably another 7-9 on one of the weekend days. Overall you get paid something along the lines of 7.50 an hour...
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I get paid 15 an hour to fly and nothing on the ground. Sucks really bad, you lose .4 of pre and post flight, which could lead to more money.
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Doesn't sound like where anyone but a time builder would want to work, although I appreciate your honesty. If I were looking for a good job as a flight instructor I would keep looking because there are better towns to live in. E-R has other campuses also. I hear Prescott is a better place to live.

One thing about the Daytona campus though is Down Under Seafood Restaurant. It's under a bridge somewhere down there. Great place to eat; fresh seafood is out of this world. You could flight instruct during the day, eat there two or three times a week and leave with a thousand hours after less than two years. Who wouldn't go for that?
I definitely agree and that applies to the younger instructors but most of the instructors that stayed (and signed the contract) were either older (there are a lot) and were there to stay or were there working on their masters.

Been to Prescott too. Very quiet peaceful town in the Arizona mountains, very pretty. But it is out in the middle of nowhere.

LOL, It's under the Dunlawton Ave. Bridge and yes very good. Our Deck is also down there as well and generally draws a bigger crowd and most of the time is even better but not always. I wonder if it has to do with how fresh their catch is?
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For the DAB Flight Instructor Position:
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prescott is a good place to live and teach. The best part about being a riddle instructor, in my opinion, was never ever having to hunt for students. New students are being tossed your way all the time, there is little to no competition between instructors, and there is no need to market yourself at all.

I still have nightmares about having more students than I can handle
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Well, now I'm hurting for students at the moment. We hired too many instructors, IMO, so the students are spread thin. Good news for the students though! I'm actively flying three at the moment, all three are due for a checkride soon.
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