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Old 10-10-2010 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Go fly A340s out of Turkey. Save your $5K to get your hideous JAA certificates.
340 in Turkey for an RJ guy? hahahahaha
You obviously don't know what you are talking about..

BP, PM me if you have questions..
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Old 10-10-2010 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
There is a huge stigma about pay for training. Of course pilots don't want to pay for their training, but doctors pay for med school, lawyers pay for law school, why shouldn't pilots pay for ATP's?

Because, for now, you only need a commercial to get paid to fly.

I'd say do whatever you can to get the A320 type if you'd like to go to Jetblue (A320 is the 2nd most produced airliner of all time, many airlines have them, and there are thousands of them flying every day. It won't go to waste).

Including crossing a picket line? How low should we go?

To the OP, put your money in an IRA or 401k. 30 or 40 years from now it will have done more for you.
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Old 10-10-2010 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
340 in Turkey for an RJ guy? hahahahaha
You obviously don't know what you are talking about..

BP, PM me if you have questions..
Nope, I don't. I've never looked for a foreign job. Never had too. But it took 20 seconds to goggle it and post it back. Why don't you enlighten us on flying for a foreign carrier?
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Old 10-11-2010 | 09:04 AM
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Spirit will be hiring soon and our new-hire FO's get a pic type (ATP, of course) in initial training.
...could be a stepping stone to Jet Blue, or who knows...?

They are looking for a minimum of 4000 hours total time though.
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Old 10-11-2010 | 01:13 PM
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Buffalo,
I think you got several points of view to help you make a tough decision. Having made the decission to pursue this career already has shown you are used to taking different pieces of information and making the best decision.

ESA17,
I am curious what you in particular found to be beyond "bad" in my ideas.
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Old 10-11-2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckyt1
To the OP, put your money in an IRA or 401k. 30 or 40 years from now it will have done more for you.
Agreed.

And, I know it's probably not popular around here, but if you can't afford life on pilot pay.........there are better paying jobs out there. They just aren't in an airplane.

Gotta do what ya gotta do.

If it were me, I'd take the better paying job and fly airplanes later. There are much more important things in life than pulling back to make the houses smaller.

-mini
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Old 10-11-2010 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by clowdsurfer64
ESA17,
I am curious what you in particular found to be beyond "bad" in my ideas.
Well, it's been a while since I took 6th grade grammar and studied the related info regarding context clues but if I were an outsider looking in I'd probably pick the part I highlighted in bold text.


But that's just me.
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Old 10-12-2010 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by esa17
Where is he going to go that doesn't have a 3 year wait at this point?
I flew the PA31 for Ameriflight for 8 months and then got transitioned to the BE99. Could have taken one a few months earlier but I didn't look highly upon the prospect of living in Nebraska. All of my PA31 time is PIC time and now all of my BE99 time is Turbine PIC time. No Type / ATP required and when I move up to the B1900 or the Metroliner, they will give me an ATP and a Type in whichever I get into! I am now getting the one thing I could get quickly at AMF that I couldn't get at an Regional nowadays... Turbine PIC time!

Go AMF!!!
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Old 10-12-2010 | 05:43 AM
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If the OP got his ATP (but no type rating), it would open many doors on the business aviation side of the industry, even in the current environment. Many corporate operators won't consider you for a King Air PIC or even light jet SIC position without an ATP. You likely also wouldn't be qualified for direct-entry cargo turboprop PIC jobs without an ATP.

Back during the recent "boom times", you would have been qualified for any fractional operator EXCEPT for the fact you didn't have an ATP. Right now, you'd be easily insurable as PIC on most any light jet with your times...but again, no ATP and therefore fewer folks willing to consider you for employment.

IMO, buying a type rating with no previous or looming time in type is a waste of money (especially if one says they can't survive on their regional FO compensation)..but paying to knock out an ATP ride isn't. Besides, if you're instrument proficient (and as an airline pilot I assume you are) you should be able to find any rental Dutchess/Seminole/Seneca for $250-300/hr and get brushed up in just 3 or so hours for the ride.
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Old 10-14-2010 | 12:19 PM
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Clowdsurfer64,

First let me say thank you for all you have done for very many in the industry. I can tell your username was not chosen by you but probably set up for you by one of your sons.

ISA17, I can assure you that the one little piece of free advice that was offered to the pilot earlier was very good advice. It came from a true gentlement that has many years of experience in both the cockpit of several Boeings (including all seats). His restraint has been exhibited by the lack of response to your most recent post. This forum can be a fantastic avenue or tool used to help a career at many levels of experience. Based on both your sarcastic response to a direct question and also the fact that you proudly brag about being a CFI, I am guessing you are still in your twenties. It showed in your post. Not professional at all. It is a shame that forums are used by some as a way to take cheap shots at people or try to show off. I would really enjoy know who you were and to see the look on your face if you ever came across my friends path....Maybe someday when you mature and get the experience and then if your lucky - get an interview at one of the major airlines.....that is why I say you are very lucky that you remain nameless on a forum like this.
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