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Old 12-11-2012, 04:26 PM   #11  
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Also, FAA still issues certs. with SSN on it. Everytime I get a new one (CFI) they ask me if I want to change it, I have not as of yet. That's just me.
As a proud South Carolinian who is probably one of the 3.8 million SSNs hacked from our Department revenue computers, I'd suggest removing the SSN from your cert - what if you lost your wallet? Granted, the thief/finder may not know what an FAA Cert is and what data it contains, but..................
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:15 PM   #12  
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I certainly remember seeing in my online ground course i recalling having to get the name of Safety pilot and insome cases the cert #. though it did not mention the cert # of the flight instructor.

I think the reason why so many people may want the cert # is how would you know if this person is actually rated to fly this sort of airplane, or if this person may be a pilot at all, or in any cases you lie having a safety pilot and the faa asks you who is this, and youre in deep ****** if you can't get the 'person"
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:19 PM   #13  
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I think the reason why so many people may want the cert # is how would you know if this person is actually rated to fly this sort of airplane, or if this person may be a pilot at all, or in any cases you lie having a safety pilot and the faa asks you who is this, and youre in deep ****** if you can't get the 'person"

The reg says you need the name, that should be enough.

If the FAA needs to find the person, how they do it is their problem.

If they suspect fraud they would have to prove that every person with that same name in their registry was NOT your SP on the day in question.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:36 PM   #14  
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Although not required I recommend it. The reason I recommend it is because if the FAA does do a long book review that at least has more credibility that some one's name that could've just been penciled whipped in.
Is that my problem or theirs? They only require a name, and that's all I ever bothered to record. If that wasn't required, I probably wouldn't have recorded anything at all...
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You can pay the FAA $2 for a new certificate and request that your social security number be removed and they will issue you a new certificate number.
If you remove the SSN, you don't have to pay the $2.
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Is that my problem or theirs? They only require a name, and that's all I ever bothered to record. If that wasn't required, I probably wouldn't have recorded anything at all...
Same here. If I used two John Smiths as safety pilots I might consider noting which one but other than that don't see much reason to include information not required. Personal preferences will vary, as they do in other areas.
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I certainly remember seeing in my online ground course i recalling having to get the name of Safety pilot and insome cases the cert #. though it did not mention the cert # of the flight instructor.
The regs for logging flight instruction do required the CFI's certificate number be included in the endorsement.

Are you sure you don't recall backwards?
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The reg says you need the name, that should be enough.

If the FAA needs to find the person, how they do it is their problem.

If they suspect fraud they would have to prove that every person with that same name in their registry was NOT your SP on the day in question.
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Is that my problem or theirs? They only require a name, and that's all I ever bothered to record. If that wasn't required, I probably wouldn't have recorded anything at all...
THIS^^^

Some of you guys go way further with stuff that you need to or should! Providing extra information will not make you look good to the FAA if they are investigating you! Just follow the regs and you will be fine. The way it looks to me is you can't follow direction when you feel the need to go above and beyond.
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