CAPT/FTSI - Unprofessionalism
12-06-2006, 08:28 PM
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CAPT/FTSI - Unprofessionalism
I just heard some news about some recent interactions that demonstrates yet again that there is just a lack of consideration and professionalism from the FTSI/CAPT program. I wish I could get into the details but I've made a promise not to. I know this is a tease but those who know me on the boards also know that I don't make stuff up. After all, the unprofessional crap that CAPT dishes out, you just can't make this stuff up!
In other news, seems like CAPT rescues a bunch of people from the FAILED Focus venture for those cadets that got sold on the idea of flying the 747 as FE after a year of slave service. The good news for these cadets is that they got a FLYING job finally. But you have to wonder why CAPT would even venture into an agreement that had NO MERIT and NO VALIDITY in the first place! I just hope CAPT does the right thing for the rest of the grads that went to Focus and get them a flying job too!
But it goes to show you that CAPT doesn't really care where they put you. They just want the statistics to look good for them. But, the statistics STILL SHOW that other flight programs like ATP and DCA are placing MUCH HIGHER than CAPT can hope to.
They're looking to expand their market into Europe and "Oriental" (if you can even believe they would even use such a word in this day and age) regions. I truly hope these foreigners don't get ripped off like us domestic folks who entrusted them with their empty promises and wasted a TON of money into their bullsh!t program. And now, our lives have been ruined by CAPT. Great job CAPT!
And they are also taking credit for placements that they have not assisted the graduates in getting! That's how desperate they are to make their statistics look good! It's just such a shame. And it's completely unethical. Do you really want to take a chance with your hard earned money (or borrowed money because their program is just insanely expensive)?
Now, they are offering CFI and MEI training and TIME BUILDING programs. Now that is CLEARLY an indirect admission to the fact that their AB INITIO program DON'T WORK! I guess 225 hours of loggable time is just not that attractive to most airlines out there! Be careful not to get caught out there!
But you can save yourselves and others by warning them about the FTSI/CAPT program and warn people not to attend this flight school. There are PLENTY of flight training options that are just as good and CHEAPER than the FTSI/CAPT program that one can take advantage of. And you will NOT be a victim to their unprofessionalism, favoritism, and sheer lack of consideration for your future career in aviation!
Don't let your loved ones, friends, and family suffer because they got fooled into flying pretty Cirrus and other hot planes. Airplanes don't make a program. And FTST/CAPT is trying hard to capture new students with eye candy! Don't fall for it!
In other news, seems like CAPT rescues a bunch of people from the FAILED Focus venture for those cadets that got sold on the idea of flying the 747 as FE after a year of slave service. The good news for these cadets is that they got a FLYING job finally. But you have to wonder why CAPT would even venture into an agreement that had NO MERIT and NO VALIDITY in the first place! I just hope CAPT does the right thing for the rest of the grads that went to Focus and get them a flying job too!
But it goes to show you that CAPT doesn't really care where they put you. They just want the statistics to look good for them. But, the statistics STILL SHOW that other flight programs like ATP and DCA are placing MUCH HIGHER than CAPT can hope to.
They're looking to expand their market into Europe and "Oriental" (if you can even believe they would even use such a word in this day and age) regions. I truly hope these foreigners don't get ripped off like us domestic folks who entrusted them with their empty promises and wasted a TON of money into their bullsh!t program. And now, our lives have been ruined by CAPT. Great job CAPT!
And they are also taking credit for placements that they have not assisted the graduates in getting! That's how desperate they are to make their statistics look good! It's just such a shame. And it's completely unethical. Do you really want to take a chance with your hard earned money (or borrowed money because their program is just insanely expensive)?
Now, they are offering CFI and MEI training and TIME BUILDING programs. Now that is CLEARLY an indirect admission to the fact that their AB INITIO program DON'T WORK! I guess 225 hours of loggable time is just not that attractive to most airlines out there! Be careful not to get caught out there!
But you can save yourselves and others by warning them about the FTSI/CAPT program and warn people not to attend this flight school. There are PLENTY of flight training options that are just as good and CHEAPER than the FTSI/CAPT program that one can take advantage of. And you will NOT be a victim to their unprofessionalism, favoritism, and sheer lack of consideration for your future career in aviation!
Don't let your loved ones, friends, and family suffer because they got fooled into flying pretty Cirrus and other hot planes. Airplanes don't make a program. And FTST/CAPT is trying hard to capture new students with eye candy! Don't fall for it!
12-06-2006, 09:28 PM
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That is why I'm going to do all of my training at my local FBO, and it will be pay as I go. I'm not, not for a second going to borrow money for a job that only pays 20K a year. As much fun as it might be, if I get there it will be with no debt, no college loans, and no aviation loans. If I see that it's going to take me more than my four years in college to get my aviation ratings, I'll just get my masters. School never hurts. It's fun.
By the way, a good way to avoid having college fee's, is to attend a state college, they are normally cheap, and if you get hired at places like banks, fedex, ups, or local government positions, they'll pay for college. Especially banks, and since I'm doing a degree in Finance, they'll look at it as enhancing my skill's and it gives them a reason to pay for it. Look around, there's better options than just wasting your time and writing an essay and hoping yours gets picked. AVOID ALL LOANS, WE'LL EXCEPT CAR LOANS, I'LL TRY TO PAY MY CAR LOAN EACH MONTH, BUT AVIATION I WILL PAY AS I GO. NO DEBT, I'M NOT CRAZY.
By the way, a good way to avoid having college fee's, is to attend a state college, they are normally cheap, and if you get hired at places like banks, fedex, ups, or local government positions, they'll pay for college. Especially banks, and since I'm doing a degree in Finance, they'll look at it as enhancing my skill's and it gives them a reason to pay for it. Look around, there's better options than just wasting your time and writing an essay and hoping yours gets picked. AVOID ALL LOANS, WE'LL EXCEPT CAR LOANS, I'LL TRY TO PAY MY CAR LOAN EACH MONTH, BUT AVIATION I WILL PAY AS I GO. NO DEBT, I'M NOT CRAZY.
12-07-2006, 03:10 AM
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I went into a little debt, but I have managed to pay most of it off, and considering that I have been working as a flight instructor for the past 3 years, I think I did pretty well!
Save yourself even more money, go to a state Univ. that has online classes. A 4 year degree costs under $30k and you can participate all from the comfort of your living room / crash pad / crew room with your beverage of choice close at hand.
Save yourself even more money, go to a state Univ. that has online classes. A 4 year degree costs under $30k and you can participate all from the comfort of your living room / crash pad / crew room with your beverage of choice close at hand.
12-07-2006, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by favila008
That is why I'm going to do all of my training at my local FBO, and it will be pay as I go. I'm not, not for a second going to borrow money for a job that only pays 20K a year. As much fun as it might be, if I get there it will be with no debt, no college loans, and no aviation loans. If I see that it's going to take me more than my four years in college to get my aviation ratings, I'll just get my masters. School never hurts. It's fun.
By the way, a good way to avoid having college fee's, is to attend a state college, they are normally cheap, and if you get hired at places like banks, fedex, ups, or local government positions, they'll pay for college. Especially banks, and since I'm doing a degree in Finance, they'll look at it as enhancing my skill's and it gives them a reason to pay for it. Look around, there's better options than just wasting your time and writing an essay and hoping yours gets picked. AVOID ALL LOANS, WE'LL EXCEPT CAR LOANS, I'LL TRY TO PAY MY CAR LOAN EACH MONTH, BUT AVIATION I WILL PAY AS I GO. NO DEBT, I'M NOT CRAZY.
By the way, a good way to avoid having college fee's, is to attend a state college, they are normally cheap, and if you get hired at places like banks, fedex, ups, or local government positions, they'll pay for college. Especially banks, and since I'm doing a degree in Finance, they'll look at it as enhancing my skill's and it gives them a reason to pay for it. Look around, there's better options than just wasting your time and writing an essay and hoping yours gets picked. AVOID ALL LOANS, WE'LL EXCEPT CAR LOANS, I'LL TRY TO PAY MY CAR LOAN EACH MONTH, BUT AVIATION I WILL PAY AS I GO. NO DEBT, I'M NOT CRAZY.
You can avoid a car loan as well...No need to buy a new car - get a good used car and have it inspected by an independent mechanic (one you are paying). I bought a used Nissan Maxima 2001 in Aug 02 for 15.5K (paid cash) with only 19K miles on it. There are plenty of deals out there. Keep looking.
I plan on keeping the car for another 10 years if not longer...
-LAFF
12-07-2006, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
You can avoid a car loan as well...No need to buy a new car - get a good used car and have it inspected by an independent mechanic (one you are paying). I bought a used Nissan Maxima 2001 in Aug 02 for 15.5K (paid cash) with only 19K miles on it. There are plenty of deals out there. Keep looking.
I plan on keeping the car for another 10 years if not longer...
-LAFF
I plan on keeping the car for another 10 years if not longer...
-LAFF
12-07-2006, 08:36 AM
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We had a guy at a regional I was at, who got hired into an RJ with 295 hours TT from CAPT. That's why I have a list of airlines I just wont put my family or loved ones on. What ever happened to working to earn a job? An passing a type rating course doesn't count. Any yahoo can get a CRJ type added to their ticket... it's not hard at all.
12-07-2006, 08:37 AM
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I can't believe some of these insurance quotes I hear... Sure, having it under your dad's name would be the thing to do (if he trusts ya), but of course you should still pay the bill.
For California drivers, a firm called Auto Insurance Specialists shops various insurers annually for the best rate for their customers. Not sure what you have available where you live. https://www.aisinsurance.com/aishome.aspx
BTW, I got a '03 Eclipse Spyder with 24K miles on it in '04 for $16K. With my time bomb of a trade-in worth $8K it was an easy sell for them. I'll be keeping it for a long time, but I've got my eye on an Infiniti G35 coupe next. Hopefully they're still around in 6-8 years.
For California drivers, a firm called Auto Insurance Specialists shops various insurers annually for the best rate for their customers. Not sure what you have available where you live. https://www.aisinsurance.com/aishome.aspx
BTW, I got a '03 Eclipse Spyder with 24K miles on it in '04 for $16K. With my time bomb of a trade-in worth $8K it was an easy sell for them. I'll be keeping it for a long time, but I've got my eye on an Infiniti G35 coupe next. Hopefully they're still around in 6-8 years.
12-07-2006, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bose
I can't believe some of these insurance quotes I hear... Sure, having it under your dad's name would be the thing to do (if he trusts ya), but of course you should still pay the bill.
For California drivers, a firm called Auto Insurance Specialists shops various insurers annually for the best rate for their customers. Not sure what you have available where you live. https://www.aisinsurance.com/aishome.aspx
BTW, I got a '03 Eclipse Spyder with 24K miles on it in '04 for $16K. With my time bomb of a trade-in worth $8K it was an easy sell for them. I'll be keeping it for a long time, but I've got my eye on an Infiniti G35 coupe next. Hopefully they're still around in 6-8 years.
For California drivers, a firm called Auto Insurance Specialists shops various insurers annually for the best rate for their customers. Not sure what you have available where you live. https://www.aisinsurance.com/aishome.aspx
BTW, I got a '03 Eclipse Spyder with 24K miles on it in '04 for $16K. With my time bomb of a trade-in worth $8K it was an easy sell for them. I'll be keeping it for a long time, but I've got my eye on an Infiniti G35 coupe next. Hopefully they're still around in 6-8 years.
12-07-2006, 10:47 AM
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Yea...Uncle Bose that won't work check it out:
https://www.aisinsurance.com/aishome...ng&_pky=469612
and that is low coverage, I don't know which one do auto dealers ask for.
https://www.aisinsurance.com/aishome...ng&_pky=469612
and that is low coverage, I don't know which one do auto dealers ask for.
12-12-2006, 08:52 PM
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The CAPT people let go from Focus are undergoing reccurency training by CAPT right now. Half of them have interviews already lined up this month. The Focus Air cadet program didn't work due to regulations regarding the level C sim they have for the 74 classic and the low time by the CAPT guys. Regs overlooked by all parties.
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