srita95

Hi Guys,
Ive been looking at other threads about the new rules regarding getting a ATP certificate, and it sounds like if I take my written test before August I wont have to go through the long and arduous process that the FAA set up. My only concern with taking the written now is that I wont be 23 in 2 years time, ill only be 21. So, what should I do about this? Is it possible for me to get an R-ATP at 21 then move up to a standard atp at 23 without taking a CTP? Is there anyway for me to prolong my written or use an expired written? I was told that expired writtens were accepted by pilots working for part 135 carriers. The feedback is appreciated guys, thanks.

Twin Wasp

Look at 61.160(f) and (g). If you take the written now and are 21 and have 1500 hours before August 2016 you can get the ATP-R. Then when you turn 23 it's just a paper shuffle to get the regular ATP. 61.39(b) ends the use of expired "old" writtens.

Beech90

Or is it 18?

Hawker445

Hmm, the FAA website says otherwise about 61.35

61.35 Knowledge test: Prerequisites and passing grades.
(a) An applicant for a knowledge test must have:

(1) Received an endorsement, if required by this part, from an authorized instructor certifying that the applicant accomplished the appropriate ground-training or a home-study course required by this part for the certificate or rating sought and is prepared for the knowledge test;

(2) After July 31, 2014, for the knowledge test for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating, a graduation certificate for the airline transport pilot certification training program specified in §61.156; and

(3) Proper identification at the time of application that contains the applicant's—

(i) Photograph;

(ii) Signature;

(iii) Date of birth, which shows:

(A) For issuance of certificates other than the ATP certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating, the applicant meets or will meet the age requirements of this part for the certificate sought before the expiration date of the airman knowledge test report;

(B) Prior to August 1, 2014, for issuance of an ATP certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating under the aeronautical experience requirements of §§61.159 or 61.160, the applicant is at least 21 years of age at the time of the knowledge test; and

(C) After July 31, 2014, for issuance of an ATP certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating obtained under the aeronautical experience requirements of §§61.159 or 61.160, the applicant is at least 18 years of age at the time of the knowledge test;

(iv) If the permanent mailing address is a post office box number, then the applicant must provide a current residential address.

(b) The Administrator shall specify the minimum passing grade for the knowledge test.




I think the reason why this is worded this way is so that after August you can take the written at 18 for the R-ATP, and still have 2 years time to take the practical if you went to a university. But I don't know, it's a pain in the crack to figure out what all these changes mean.