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02-02-2007, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bose
True.
He was an extreme case, but ERAU, as you'd expect, has quite a number of "those types."
He was an extreme case, but ERAU, as you'd expect, has quite a number of "those types."
I guess we all should go to Community College to avoid the "nerds".
02-02-2007, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NE_Pilot
And a major engineering school has the same, and any school who has one big degree program, will attract people who are extremely passionate about their field.
I guess we all should go to Community College to avoid the "nerds".
I guess we all should go to Community College to avoid the "nerds".
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02-02-2007, 09:39 PM
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Thanks NE_Pilot, the whole point of my argument is that learning to fly is expensive if you do it as a civilian, regardless of where you do it.
JMT21, I realize I will be in quite a bit of debt after school and i also realize I will make less money when I graduate than I would be capable of making if chose a different career path. But that isnt a problem for me. I love flying. I can't see myself doing anything else that would be more enjoyable and fulfilling. I don't know what your career goals are, but if they are dictated by your salary, then I'm very happy that you'll be making more than $54,000 a year. I want to have a job I enjoy, so for the time being, I'm gonna stick with my double major aviation management and commercial aviation.
As for my mind, it's very open. I love college, I love being in a fraternity, and I love my flight training. If I ever don't love it, there's nothing forcing me to keep doing something I don't love. I know life is way too short. My good friend was killed in a plane crash last December. I've almost had a mid-air collision. I've seen how short life can be/could have been, i have evaluated and reevaluated my desire to continue my flight training. I've always come to the conclusion that living life not doing what I truly love isn't worth the decreased risk. Life is just too short, right?
Erik
JMT21, I realize I will be in quite a bit of debt after school and i also realize I will make less money when I graduate than I would be capable of making if chose a different career path. But that isnt a problem for me. I love flying. I can't see myself doing anything else that would be more enjoyable and fulfilling. I don't know what your career goals are, but if they are dictated by your salary, then I'm very happy that you'll be making more than $54,000 a year. I want to have a job I enjoy, so for the time being, I'm gonna stick with my double major aviation management and commercial aviation.
As for my mind, it's very open. I love college, I love being in a fraternity, and I love my flight training. If I ever don't love it, there's nothing forcing me to keep doing something I don't love. I know life is way too short. My good friend was killed in a plane crash last December. I've almost had a mid-air collision. I've seen how short life can be/could have been, i have evaluated and reevaluated my desire to continue my flight training. I've always come to the conclusion that living life not doing what I truly love isn't worth the decreased risk. Life is just too short, right?
Erik
02-03-2007, 12:49 PM
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Im 18 and taking a year off before i go to university to save money for flight costs. At the beggining of the year i was so set on going to UND, i was willing to sacrifice everything to pay for the tuition (ie) loans. Since im from Canada with dual citizenship, I thought that UND would be the best thing for me to become an pilot. I was so set on UND, i joined here and made my name UND.
Thankfully, reality set in over the winter and i realized how bogus a commercial aviation degree would be. In my town, Kelowna BC, there is a commercial aviation program that allows you to get your ratings at the local FBO, and finish out in a degree in Business at UBCO. After talking with pilots, the bottom line is, the degree does not matter, where you did your training does not matter, as long as you have the ratings and hours to back it up. I think by majoring in something unrelated to aviation will make me a more rounded person than just having a commercial aviation degree. The other plus, is that i will be saving a ton of money! Now if only i can figure out how to change my user name....
Thankfully, reality set in over the winter and i realized how bogus a commercial aviation degree would be. In my town, Kelowna BC, there is a commercial aviation program that allows you to get your ratings at the local FBO, and finish out in a degree in Business at UBCO. After talking with pilots, the bottom line is, the degree does not matter, where you did your training does not matter, as long as you have the ratings and hours to back it up. I think by majoring in something unrelated to aviation will make me a more rounded person than just having a commercial aviation degree. The other plus, is that i will be saving a ton of money! Now if only i can figure out how to change my user name....
02-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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In the words of the Grail Knight, you have chosen.....wisely. Congrats, and good luck with the future. Although I will say you won't actually NEED as much luck as people graduating with an aviation degree and $100K or more of debt.
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02-03-2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by UND_jesse
Im 18 and taking a year off before i go to university to save money for flight costs. At the beggining of the year i was so set on going to UND, i was willing to sacrifice everything to pay for the tuition (ie) loans. Since im from Canada with dual citizenship, I thought that UND would be the best thing for me to become an pilot. I was so set on UND, i joined here and made my name UND.
Thankfully, reality set in over the winter and i realized how bogus a commercial aviation degree would be. In my town, Kelowna BC, there is a commercial aviation program that allows you to get your ratings at the local FBO, and finish out in a degree in Business at UBCO. After talking with pilots, the bottom line is, the degree does not matter, where you did your training does not matter, as long as you have the ratings and hours to back it up. I think by majoring in something unrelated to aviation will make me a more rounded person than just having a commercial aviation degree. The other plus, is that i will be saving a ton of money! Now if only i can figure out how to change my user name....
Thankfully, reality set in over the winter and i realized how bogus a commercial aviation degree would be. In my town, Kelowna BC, there is a commercial aviation program that allows you to get your ratings at the local FBO, and finish out in a degree in Business at UBCO. After talking with pilots, the bottom line is, the degree does not matter, where you did your training does not matter, as long as you have the ratings and hours to back it up. I think by majoring in something unrelated to aviation will make me a more rounded person than just having a commercial aviation degree. The other plus, is that i will be saving a ton of money! Now if only i can figure out how to change my user name....
LOL...At least it isn't ERAU_Jesse...Right?
When you're done with school head down to ATP and get your ratings then CFI and work in the states keeping your canadian citizenship and benefits intact. If you can get dual citizenship and enjoy both sides of the border. Something to think about...
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02-03-2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bose
You have chosen....wisely. Congrats, and good luck with the future. Although I will say you won't actually NEED as much luck as people graduating with an aviation degree and $100K or more of debt.
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02-03-2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
LOL...At least it isn't ERAU_Jesse...Right?
When you're done with school head down to ATP and get your ratings then CFI and work in the states keeping your canadian citizenship and benefits intact. If you can get dual citizenship and enjoy both sides of the border. Something to think about...
-LAFF
When you're done with school head down to ATP and get your ratings then CFI and work in the states keeping your canadian citizenship and benefits intact. If you can get dual citizenship and enjoy both sides of the border. Something to think about...
-LAFF
Dont bother with ATP, you can get it cheaper with a local FBO. ATP costs the same as the UND and ERAU flight portions. You can do it for cheaper and with a more expeirenced instructor at an FBO.
02-03-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bose
In the words of the Grail Knight, you have chosen.....wisely. Congrats, and good luck with the future. Although I will say you won't actually NEED as much luck as people graduating with an aviation degree and $100K or more of debt.
What you are neglecting is that those colleges cost a little over half of what ERAU or UND cost, but when you add in the actual flight training, they cost just about the same. So the debt will be about equal.
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