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Old 05-02-2017, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
Is this Cathay or Dragon (or is there a diff?).

I'm supposed to fly Cathay twice this month with one of them connecting to Dragon. Maybe I'll take the train for the connection.
It's Dragon, but I'm assuming (as Cathay owns Dragon) it's the same at Cathay...Like Braniff DC8 says, it's pretty much the same at all the Asian carriers. I've also got CA friends at Singapore and they have similar stories to the Dragon Air guys.
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...and, both Cathay and Dragon still have Expat FO's that are very experienced; just luck of the draw who you'll have on your flight!
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
From a passenger perspective:
They are my least favourite airline to fly on in Asia. It is very similar to AA or UAL. I'm sitting in a Cathay biz lounge right now. Food is sub-par. Carpeting and furniture should have been replaced years ago... VERY shabby. Reminds me of a crappy UAL lounge. They have definitely gone down hill...
So true. Flew CX in international business class (paid ticket) a few months back on a Triple. The food was awful, worse than US domestic coach. The HK lounge was ratty and dirty. I'm amazed that CX still has any loyal business customers.

They have fallen a long way since the '80s, when I rode them frequently as a precocious teen living abroad...
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Aurora8 View Post
Just to make you feel more confident: one of the guys was flying as CA in sim training with 5 FO's where they were briefed (no surprises) the CA would be incapacitated on approach into HKG. All 5 crashed into the ocean... did it again, and 4 out of 5 crashed into the sea, and 1 overran the runway.
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
So true. Flew CX in international business class (paid ticket) a few months back on a Triple. The food was awful, worse than US domestic coach. The HK lounge was ratty and dirty. I'm amazed that CX still has any loyal business customers.

They have fallen a long way since the '80s, when I rode them frequently as a precocious teen living abroad...
I flew cx last year from SFO. First class over and biz back and both flights were exceptional, especially the first class ride. All pilots were expats. Hard to believe it's gone that downhill.

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Originally Posted by Turbosina View Post
So true. Flew CX in international business class (paid ticket) a few months back on a Triple. The food was awful, worse than US domestic coach. The HK lounge was ratty and dirty. I'm amazed that CX still has any loyal business customers.

They have fallen a long way since the '80s, when I rode them frequently as a precocious teen living abroad...
I have to wonder how much of the ratty and dirty lounge in HK is related to the creeping influence of China. Nothing in mainland China is maintained. A great example is terminal 3 in PEK. The terminal is not even nine years old yet (opened in July 2008) and yet many parts of it look like it is fifty years old. I stayed in the short stay hotel on the arrivals level and the carpet and wallpaper was completely worn, even bare in some places. The shower head was crusted over with lime and water barely trickled out. Also the Air China/Star Alliance business lounge in 3E (international departures area) is full of worn carpet and worn out chairs. Easily the worst lounge I have ever visited.
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I have to wonder how much of the ratty and dirty lounge in HK is related to the creeping influence of China. Nothing in mainland China is maintained. A great example is terminal 3 in PEK. The terminal is not even nine years old yet (opened in July 2008) and yet many parts of it look like it is fifty years old. I stayed in the short stay hotel on the arrivals level and the carpet and wallpaper was completely worn, even bare in some places. The shower head was crusted over with lime and water barely trickled out. Also the Air China/Star Alliance business lounge in 3E (international departures area) is full of worn carpet and worn out chairs. Easily the worst lounge I have ever visited.
Sounds like the Korean lounge at LAX.

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CX pilots are in a work slow down (contract compliance) over work rules. It was announced that Atlas will be flying two B748s for CX beginning this month.

I hope the Atlas pilots realize what they are doing. If Atlas were to eventually go on strike, what support would they like to have especially Americans?

ATLAS PILOTS, PLEASE DON'T DO IT!
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I used to want to work for CX. A friend and myself applied about 12 years ago. We both got interviews. He went to HK for his interview, talked to a bunch of other interviews beforehand, and canceled his CX interview. I cancelled mine which was scheduled a few weeks later.

A couple of years later I am working in Asia at a different carrier. A few times I spent time in hotel lounges with a few CX pilots. All they talked about was who the last @$$hole sim evaluator was, and who they were going to get the next time. In between they complained about @nal Captains they flew with.

Not for me. I think I made a good choice.
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Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 View Post
CX pilots are in a work slow down (contract compliance) over work rules. It was announced that Atlas will be flying two B748s for CX beginning this month.

I hope the Atlas pilots realize what they are doing. If Atlas were to eventually go on strike, what support would they like to have especially Americans?

ATLAS PILOTS, PLEASE DON'T DO IT!
Are the Cathay pilots on strike? No. If they were on strike, then we wouldn't cross. However, there is no strike, so there is no valid point in your post.

Atlas pilots will not cross a picket line, as was recently demonstrated during the ABX strike.
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