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Old 03-04-2008 | 01:03 PM
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Just wondering what the new 1st year pay scale is on the freighter?
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Old 03-04-2008 | 01:44 PM
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USA Based Direct Entry FO (PAX and Freight) in American Pesos:
1- 78,228
2- 79,778
3- 81,384 and so on

Canada based DEFO (PAX and/or Freight) in Canadian Dollars:
1- 92,112
2- 93,960
3- 95,844 and so on

These take effect 01JUL08
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Old 03-04-2008 | 05:31 PM
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Do you know what the progression is looking like as of now, from SO to FO to CA? Also, how come CX has JFO and FO? (what is the purpose and difference between the two positions except the pay)?
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Old 03-05-2008 | 01:16 PM
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JFOs are the pilots that upgraded out of the SO position. They are usually restricted to flights within the region so that they get a lot more takeoffs and landings than pilots on the long haul fleets. They also have tighter operation restrictions than a FO.

Right now I am hearing that it is approx 3 years to upgrade from SO to JFO (a little shorter on the A330 and a little longer on the B777). Then 2 years to FO and then approx. 8-10 total years with CX to passenger fleet captain, again depending on the fleet. Freighter captain is much faster...as low as 22 months as of late.

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Old 03-08-2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 4everFO
USA Based Direct Entry FO (PAX and Freight) in American Pesos:
1- 78,228
2- 79,778
3- 81,384 and so on

Canada based DEFO (PAX and/or Freight) in Canadian Dollars:
1- 92,112
2- 93,960
3- 95,844 and so on

These take effect 01JUL08
Can I get a Canada base as a US resident? CAD 92,112 = USD 92,901...
That's a significant difference in pay!
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Old 03-09-2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sunnfun
Can I get a Canada base as a US resident? CAD 92,112 = USD 92,901...
That's a significant difference in pay!
Yes you can. Higher salary in Canada plus higher hourly duty pay, plus 15.5% equals a higher amount, plus CIGNA insurance for Americans based up North. Overall a much better package.

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Old 03-09-2008 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 4everFO
Yes you can. Higher salary in Canada plus higher hourly duty pay, plus 15.5% equals a higher amount, plus CIGNA insurance for Americans based up North. Overall a much better package.

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Do you need a residency permit in Canada or can you commute? How are the US based crews taking the ~$15K pay difference?
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Old 03-10-2008 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 4everFO
Yes you can. Higher salary in Canada plus higher hourly duty pay, plus 15.5% equals a higher amount, plus CIGNA insurance for Americans based up North. Overall a much better package.

FO
Does anyone know what the tax implications are for Americans who are based in any of these domiciles? I believe there is a set figure that you can earn aboard that is tax free. Something like 87,500.
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Old 03-10-2008 | 08:21 AM
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Americans based in Canada do not get work permits, all that I know of commute to YYZ. The pay difference, yeah it sucks, I have been with CX for 2 years on the freighter in the US and make 72,500USD while these new guys come in and get paid 92Gs and get better trips, while I rot in ANC in each direction.

Tax free income is only if you work and reside abroad. If you live in the US then you are responsible for US income as well as you state's tax, on your entire income.

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Old 03-10-2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 4everFO
Americans based in Canada do not get work permits, all that I know of commute to YYZ. The pay difference, yeah it sucks, I have been with CX for 2 years on the freighter in the US and make 72,500USD while these new guys come in and get paid 92Gs and get better trips, while I rot in ANC in each direction.

Tax free income is only if you work and reside abroad. If you live in the US then you are responsible for US income as well as you state's tax, on your entire income.

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Hmm. . . make sense on the tax thing.

But even rereading the thread I am confused on who decides on who can be YYZ based or not? Are you not there because you're flying cargo?
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