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Old 10-15-2005, 10:45 AM
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Singapore Cargo is actively recruiting captains and first officers for their fleet of 14 747-400 freighters.

Captain mins

(w/ 747-400 type):
6000 TT
3000 PIC int'l airline ops
747-400 type w/ 1000 PIC in a/c

(no 747-400 type):
6000 TT
3000 PIC int'l airline ops
Preference for those with glass cockpit/FMS/widebody experience


First Officer mins

(w/ 747-400 type):
2500 in int'l airline ops
747-400 type w/ 500 TT in a/c

(no 747-400 type):
2500 in int'l airline ops
Preference for those with glass cockpit/FMS/widebody experience


Training contract:

w/o 747-400 type rating, 5 year 8 mo contract

Base salary:
Capt: S$10,000/mo (those with type can expect higher)
FO: S$5,600/mo (")

Additional:
up to 10% of salary in additional "monthly variable component"
Profit sharing
Housing allowance

Apply:

Submit copy of SIA Cargo pilot application via

email: cgofltops_recruit[at]singaporeair.com.sg or

Hard copy:
Manager Flight Operations
(HR & Admin)
SIA Training Centre, 04-C
720 Upper Changi Road East
Singapore 486852

(indicate "SIA Cargo" and position on the top left-hand corner of the envelope)

More info can be found at www.siacargo.com/career.asp.
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Old 10-15-2005, 11:21 AM
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Thank you for posting that. Is it me or is that some very low pay to fly a 747-400?! (1SGD = .6USD)

Anyone else got any info on this gig? Thanks.
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Old 10-15-2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Murano
Thank you for posting that. Is it me or is that some very low pay to fly a 747-400?! (1SGD = .6USD)
Your'e right, 10,000 Singapore dollars = 5,916.46 U.S. dollar. But maybe that's just first year probationary pay.
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Murano
Thank you for posting that. Is it me or is that some very low pay to fly a 747-400?! (1SGD = .6USD)

Anyone else got any info on this gig? Thanks.
Check this link from May:

http://forums.airlinepilotcentral.co...ight=Singapore
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:05 AM
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the wait for DEC 777 is over a year now and still counting (380 delay woes...)- and that is from your interview date which could take another 6 mos or more. DEC 747-400 cargo is just the opposite - quick. Several recently retired DAL guys are over there and have reported good things. Alot of time away from home (which has to be Singapore BTW), but a laid back, easy operation. If you don't mind 19-20 days away/mo (I'm told) not a bad gig. They do like 767 guys too - actually prefer 767 guys in that with the bond, they have you for a few years.

Age 62 max soon for the pax fleet and 65 for the cargo I have also been told but they are looking for the 50 - 55 age group for new hire.

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Old 10-16-2005, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch
Your'e right, 10,000 Singapore dollars = 5,916.46 U.S. dollar. But maybe that's just first year probationary pay.
The 10,000 is the base pay. There is also the "Flying and out of base allowance" which they say equates to another S$7000 per month.

This info from the ad in Flight International should make it clear as mud:

Captain: S$10,000 when fully operational.

First Officer: S$5600

Service Benefits and Allowances:

Monthy Variable Component: Up to 10% of monthly basic salary.
Annual Wage Supplement: Maximum of one month's basic salary.
Profit Sharing Bonus: Payable depending on company's and or SIA Group's perfromance.
Flying and out of base allowance: Approximately S$7000 for Captain and S$5700 for F.O.
Annual Leave: Up to 32 Calendar days ( Captain ) and 28 ( First Officer ).
Housing Allowance: S$3000 if married and S$2750 if single.
Child Education assistance: Up to S$1400 per month for each child for a maximum of 2 children studying in a recognized school in Singapore.

Don't forget taxes, which work out in the neighborhood of 15%.

To me it seems like about a USD 10,000 per month job as Captain. What I really don't like about Singapore is their lengthy bond and bank guarantee clauses. I'm still a little fuzzy on what the bank guarantee involves, but it seems quite ominous to me and I avoid jobs that require any kind of financial commitment up front. Bonds I'm okay with as long as they are reasonable. I'm just ending a three year $36,000 Bond arrangement at my present employer. That was fair and I had no inclination to leave before it's term so it was easy to sign. Three years is an easy commitment, 5 years and 8 months, as SIA requires, is a little bit long. A lot can happen in 5 years and one really doesn't want to be tied down like that if they can help it.

The other thing to watch out for with SIA is that your monthly basic of S$10,000 is all you get for the 32 days of annual leave or if you are sick long term. Sure you still get the housing, schooling, etc. Your leave month is a big pay cut month, which doesn't really engender a relaxing vacation.

If you want to make the 5 year 8 month commitment and think living in Singapore would be fun then it isn't a bad job, but there are better ones out there.


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Old 10-17-2005, 02:55 AM
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good, informative post TP - As for better jobs out there - I'm all ears...er, uh, eyes. (looking for DEC only)

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Better jobs depend on your qualifications, circumstances, and where you want to live. For 777 DEC positions right now there are Etihad, Asiana, and soon Jet Airways with other possibilites of Korean and Emirates opening up in 2006. The best commuting job is Korean. The best for a western lifestyle while living overseas is Emirates.

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I was just in Singapore for a week.
Great city!!
Very clean.
Friendly people.
Booze was very expensive!!!!!!!!!


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Old 10-26-2005, 11:16 AM
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Ahhhh well if the booze is expensive then that shoots it all in the foot. Fergit it then.
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