Overseas job search
07-21-2008, 12:26 AM
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Overseas job search
I have lots of PIC and SIC time on ERJ, also a 747 type, but do not have 747 flying experience. Willing to be Based in middle east, Asia, or Europe. Which Airlines are my best bets as a US Citizen.
07-21-2008, 09:38 AM
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Good luck on a 74 gig. There are quite a few of us out here that have quite a few hours in the 74 as Capts and are having a hard time finding a job mainly because the classics are going away very quickly.
Head over to climbto350. there seems to be quite few active jobs for RJ drivers (if you have 500-1000PIC in type) and most are paying as much as 74 jobs.
Head over to climbto350. there seems to be quite few active jobs for RJ drivers (if you have 500-1000PIC in type) and most are paying as much as 74 jobs.
Last edited by Thedude; 07-21-2008 at 10:00 AM.
07-22-2008, 11:58 AM
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Hi.
Now Hiring:
Cathay (US Basing if U want), Atlas/Polar (more or less home basing), XOJet, SWA, Net Jets, Allegiant, ATI (home basing), World, Hawaiin, Shenzen (China), Compass [Compass: 1 recent hire had a 24 day span between submitting his app and starting systems class (indoc is done at home on a computer)], and Pinnacle needs an Asst Chief Pilot in DTW, and Republic needs a Chief Pilot in CMH.
UPS should be hiring soon, and I think DAL and/or NWA will also. Sep 12 SWA is having an open house in DEN (http://www.panamacademy.com/a_home/index.html).
Contract Pilot Threads:
http://forums.*************.com/forumdisplay.php?f=84
http://forums.*************.com/showthread.php?t=2158
Job Boards:
http://www.flycontract.com/
http://www.jet-professionals.com/index.php?module=joblistings&func=view
http://climbto350.com/
http://jsfirm.com/searchjobs.asp
http://www.findapilot.com/index.php
Overseas Flying is where the $ is AT, and http://www.pprune.org/forums/ is where to find a ton of info. It's the “Flightinfo” of Non-North American aviation.
Middle East:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/middle-east-44/
Hong Kong:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/fragrant-harbour-wannabes-99/
Southeast Asia:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/south-asia-far-east-45/
Foreign Air Employment Threads:
http://forums.*************.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27
http://forums.flightinfo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=114361
Foreign Contract Agencies Threads:
http://forums.*************.com/showthread.php?t=313
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=114025
from “Typhoon Pilot” at:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/28631-getting-ready-furlough-help.html
http://www.wasinc.net/employment.aspx
Specific Asian companies that are hiring:
Tiger Airways, Singapore
BJETS: http://www.bjets.com/Introduction.html
Etihad (U.A.E.) just ordered 100 widebody jets-Aug Road Shows (for the 1st time) in the US (*need 100 GLASS jet):
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/28706-etihad-airways-us-roadshows.html
http://www.etihadairways.com/etihadairways/us/en/home/home
Emirates is interviewing, but sounds like no hiring 'til Jan '09
http://emirates.com/us/english/
Qatar Airways:
http://www.qatarairways.com/global/en/homepage.html
Shanghai Airlines???
Korean Air Lines:
http://www.kal-ccl.com/Index.asp?RPage=3
Japan Contract:
Available Positions Through Crew Resources Worldwide
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=114317
http://japanpilots.19.forumer.com/
http://www.pprune.org/forums/south-asia-far-east/247182-b767-ana-jp-express.html
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/2477-jalways.html
Relief Flying:
http://www.maf.org/
http://www.airserv.org/
If you want to find out about contract civilian flying in the Middle East warzones, go to:
http://aptap.org/
We've had 2 of our guys flying King Airs over there for about $30K/month.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hiring-news/27211-looking-contract-flying-iraq-afghanistan.html
Oh, and there's a Caravan instructor position paying $180? $240/year, or something like that. Based in Pakistan. Prefer if you speak Farzi. A little too much excitement for me, plus I'm average at languages and Farzi, I'm told, is VERY difficult.
Cliff
MCI
PM me if U want to email
Now Hiring:
Cathay (US Basing if U want), Atlas/Polar (more or less home basing), XOJet, SWA, Net Jets, Allegiant, ATI (home basing), World, Hawaiin, Shenzen (China), Compass [Compass: 1 recent hire had a 24 day span between submitting his app and starting systems class (indoc is done at home on a computer)], and Pinnacle needs an Asst Chief Pilot in DTW, and Republic needs a Chief Pilot in CMH.
UPS should be hiring soon, and I think DAL and/or NWA will also. Sep 12 SWA is having an open house in DEN (http://www.panamacademy.com/a_home/index.html).
Contract Pilot Threads:
http://forums.*************.com/forumdisplay.php?f=84
http://forums.*************.com/showthread.php?t=2158
Job Boards:
http://www.flycontract.com/
http://www.jet-professionals.com/index.php?module=joblistings&func=view
http://climbto350.com/
http://jsfirm.com/searchjobs.asp
http://www.findapilot.com/index.php
Overseas Flying is where the $ is AT, and http://www.pprune.org/forums/ is where to find a ton of info. It's the “Flightinfo” of Non-North American aviation.
Middle East:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/middle-east-44/
Hong Kong:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/fragrant-harbour-wannabes-99/
Southeast Asia:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/south-asia-far-east-45/
Foreign Air Employment Threads:
http://forums.*************.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27
http://forums.flightinfo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=79
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=114361
Foreign Contract Agencies Threads:
http://forums.*************.com/showthread.php?t=313
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=114025
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Aeroprofessional - Jobs for Flight Deck and Cabin Crew
AeroPersonnel Global
Aviation Jobs. Aerospace Jobs. Jobs in Aviation. Pilots Jobs
Aviation Jobs, Pilot Jobs and Pilot Employment Opportunities and Pilot Jobs, Aviation Jobs, Aviation Employment, Career Fairs, Job Fairs (altho everyone knows 'em)
www.directpersonnel.com
Aviation Recruitment, Jobs, Asia, Middle East, Europe, positions, aviation appointments, job search : Sigmar Aviation
www.flitedeckrecruitment.com
hawaiianaviation.com
http://www.wasinc.net/employment.aspx
from “Typhoon Pilot” at:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/28631-getting-ready-furlough-help.html
Good post from Koru with some good ideas, but as an American citizen I still advise to stay away from U.S. contract agencies. Therefore GAP for KAL and HACS for Japan are probably not the best idea. Not that there is anything wrong with those agencies, but life is far simplier if you do not get a 1099 form from your employer. I would reccommend either Cambridge Communications ( very good reputation ) for KAL or PARC ( also good ) for Japan if you are a U.S. citizen.
I would avoid Rishworth based on their reputation.
All that said, as a 737 First Officer your options are limited. It's far easier to get a job as a captain on the foreign contracts. Others that hire first officers are Cathay Cargo, Viva Macau, Gulf Air, Air Arabia, China Airlines, EVA Airways, Jazeera Airways, Saudi Arabian, Saudi Aramco, as well as those mentioned by Koru. You might try to get a recurrent session in the CRJ and that could put you in a position to get a CRJ captain position somewhere like Arik in Nigeria as well as some of the Chinese operators.
From: Unknown on some thread:
“WASINC will give you the PIC type if you want to do the Shenzen 737 contract. give them a call and request to speak with Doug Ward or Dave Ross.” (maybe only for guys with 737 time???
I would avoid Rishworth based on their reputation.
All that said, as a 737 First Officer your options are limited. It's far easier to get a job as a captain on the foreign contracts. Others that hire first officers are Cathay Cargo, Viva Macau, Gulf Air, Air Arabia, China Airlines, EVA Airways, Jazeera Airways, Saudi Arabian, Saudi Aramco, as well as those mentioned by Koru. You might try to get a recurrent session in the CRJ and that could put you in a position to get a CRJ captain position somewhere like Arik in Nigeria as well as some of the Chinese operators.
From: Unknown on some thread:
“WASINC will give you the PIC type if you want to do the Shenzen 737 contract. give them a call and request to speak with Doug Ward or Dave Ross.” (maybe only for guys with 737 time???
http://www.wasinc.net/employment.aspx
Specific Asian companies that are hiring:
Tiger Airways, Singapore
BJETS: http://www.bjets.com/Introduction.html
Etihad (U.A.E.) just ordered 100 widebody jets-Aug Road Shows (for the 1st time) in the US (*need 100 GLASS jet):
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/28706-etihad-airways-us-roadshows.html
http://www.etihadairways.com/etihadairways/us/en/home/home
Emirates is interviewing, but sounds like no hiring 'til Jan '09
http://emirates.com/us/english/
Qatar Airways:
http://www.qatarairways.com/global/en/homepage.html
Shanghai Airlines???
Korean Air Lines:
http://www.kal-ccl.com/Index.asp?RPage=3
Japan Contract:
Available Positions Through Crew Resources Worldwide
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=114317
http://japanpilots.19.forumer.com/
http://www.pprune.org/forums/south-asia-far-east/247182-b767-ana-jp-express.html
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/foreign/2477-jalways.html
Relief Flying:
http://www.maf.org/
http://www.airserv.org/
If you want to find out about contract civilian flying in the Middle East warzones, go to:
http://aptap.org/
We've had 2 of our guys flying King Airs over there for about $30K/month.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hiring-news/27211-looking-contract-flying-iraq-afghanistan.html
Oh, and there's a Caravan instructor position paying $180? $240/year, or something like that. Based in Pakistan. Prefer if you speak Farzi. A little too much excitement for me, plus I'm average at languages and Farzi, I'm told, is VERY difficult.
Cliff
MCI
PM me if U want to email
Last edited by atpcliff; 07-22-2008 at 06:33 PM. Reason: Add Caravan Job
07-22-2008, 04:53 PM
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Not to rain on your parade but I can tell you this.
India - If you don't have 100 PIC in type the DGCA will not recognize your type rating. I am not sure if this applies to corp airplanes or just to the airliners
China - CACC has suspended all license conversion and foreign medical applicants until the olympics are over.
Emirates - canceling interviews until further notice. (Mine was cancelled too)
India - If you don't have 100 PIC in type the DGCA will not recognize your type rating. I am not sure if this applies to corp airplanes or just to the airliners
China - CACC has suspended all license conversion and foreign medical applicants until the olympics are over.
Emirates - canceling interviews until further notice. (Mine was cancelled too)
07-24-2008, 03:52 AM
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Position: Contract purgatory
Posts: 701
I wrote my Chinese ATPL last week; in China.
They thought that the problem might be getting the work/residence visa secured over the Olympic period, but as I was in the Chinese consulate today dealing with some paperwork I figured I'd ask; apparently not a problem to get one at any time.
There are a number of Asian carriers that will hire you without a B744 type rating or any time on type. I know this because I've been hired by one. Some in Asia, Like Korean, want the rating, some don't, and some still fly classics. Jett8 was looking not too long ago for classic drivers to be Singapore based.
I'm not sure where you've been looking Dude, or who you've been speaking with, but you should try a few different places and you might come up with what you're looking for.
Good luck with it.
They thought that the problem might be getting the work/residence visa secured over the Olympic period, but as I was in the Chinese consulate today dealing with some paperwork I figured I'd ask; apparently not a problem to get one at any time.
There are a number of Asian carriers that will hire you without a B744 type rating or any time on type. I know this because I've been hired by one. Some in Asia, Like Korean, want the rating, some don't, and some still fly classics. Jett8 was looking not too long ago for classic drivers to be Singapore based.
I'm not sure where you've been looking Dude, or who you've been speaking with, but you should try a few different places and you might come up with what you're looking for.
Good luck with it.
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