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Old 07-20-2011, 10:38 AM
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Why do you not like Naples Air Center? There is no other cheaper schools in the states.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:42 AM
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My wife is from East Germany. What would be considered a different nation other in the nation she has citizenship in?
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:44 AM
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No, I have already ATP with Prior Airline Experience.
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You do realize that even though you want to do this on the cheap, you'll be expected to pay for your type with a carrier like Air Berlin? And it won't be the us$4000 you can pay in the us, it'll be around 24000 Euros.

Also, unless your technical, spoken German is up to scratch, lufthansa is pretty much a none starter. It's almost a different language, as far as my German friends are concerned.
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Why do you not like Naples Air Center? There is no other cheaper schools in the states.
PM Sent. You get what you pay for when it comes to JAA Training
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:22 PM
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NEDude,

My wife is from East Germany. What would be considered a different nation other in the nation she has citizenship in?
Your wife can legally live in any of the following countries and work there without needing to get a visa of any sort. Also, under EEA(EFTA+EU)/EU laws, she can bring you with her into the country and you can easily obtain the right to work and live in the same country that she chooses to live in

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, _Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland, plus all overseas departments of France. Some of these countries, such as Spain and France, require you to get a residence card (your wife too), but you automatically get them when you apply for the most part (Romanian Gypsies in France did not apply, and that was justification for Sarkozy to repatriate the Romanian Gypsies, so make sure you get the residence permit that you are entitled to!)

freedom of movement in the EU

So yeah, if you are so desperate to get an EU passport right away, why not go to Bulgaria?
Bulgaria opens back door to the EU with give-away passports bonanza - Telegraph

Note in response to a previous post by another user: Some airlines in Europe specify ¨Unrestricted European Passport¨ so right to live and work is not enough for some companies
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Thanks for all this information. Its sure a lot of information to understand.
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:57 AM
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Your wife can legally live in any of the following countries and work there without needing to get a visa of any sort. Also, under EEA(EFTA+EU)/EU laws, she can bring you with her into the country and you can easily obtain the right to work and live in the same country that she chooses to live in

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, _Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland, plus all overseas departments of France. Some of these countries, such as Spain and France, require you to get a residence card (your wife too), but you automatically get them when you apply for the most part (Romanian Gypsies in France did not apply, and that was justification for Sarkozy to repatriate the Romanian Gypsies, so make sure you get the residence permit that you are entitled to!)

freedom of movement in the EU

So yeah, if you are so desperate to get an EU passport right away, why not go to Bulgaria?
Bulgaria opens back door to the EU with give-away passports bonanza - Telegraph

Note in response to a previous post by another user: Some airlines in Europe specify ¨Unrestricted European Passport¨ so right to live and work is not enough for some companies
As I have sadly found out, it is not always quite so easy. If your spouse has exercised his/her right to free movement within the European Union (ie lived in an EU country other than the one they have citizenship in) then you do fall under the EU regulations regarding family re-unification, which basically is that the EU citizen's spouse and family have the automatic right to live and work as well.

However if the EU citizen spouse has not exercised their right to free movement within the EU, then the immigration and right to live/work for their spouse are the sole domain of the nation in which they live. Some of the EU nations have extremely tough standards, like Denmark.
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As I have sadly found out, it is not always quite so easy. If your spouse has exercised his/her right to free movement within the European Union (ie lived in an EU country other than the one they have citizenship in) then you do fall under the EU regulations regarding family re-unification, which basically is that the EU citizen's spouse and family have the automatic right to live and work as well.

However if the EU citizen spouse has not exercised their right to free movement within the EU, then the immigration and right to live/work for their spouse are the sole domain of the nation in which they live. Some of the EU nations have extremely tough standards, like Denmark.
I think that is what I was trying to say. Thanks for clearing it up. People assume that since my wife is Spanish and that we are married, that I can live and work anywhere in the EU, and I explain that I can only work and live in Spain (that is where we reside).
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