k2climb

I will get a type rating(B737NG) combine with FAA ATP license. But no turbine time at all. The Eagle Jet offering 500 hour B737NG program + Guaranteed 4 years employment for $39700 in Asia Base. Anyone advice or informations about this program?

captjns

Paying any entity to sit in the right seat of any aircraft merely undermines the work that we, as professionals, are trying to achieve in improving terms and conditions for us as a whole.

Don't be part of the problem, be part of the solution and earn your way into the right seat of the jet the way we did.

There is no carrier that will hire you into the left seat with only right seat time.

You want to get ahead in this industry, then you need to respect your colleagues who did not take any short cuts to the right seat of a shiny jet.

Photon

Whole heartedly agree with captain over here. Eagle Jet is what is wrong with this industry incarnate, and I have zero respect for anyone who goes through one of their programs.
Just the thought of actually PAYING to work as a first officer, the very thought is appalling..
Eagle jet is a remarkable tool to do some quality "queue jumping" so to speak, as you basically bypass all your fellow aviators who tried to do it the right way and skip to the front of the line.

Conclusion: don't make a prostitute out of yourself, keep some semblance of a professional attitude, and work your way up the ladder as you should...

k2climb

Conclusion: don't make a prostitute out of yourself, keep some semblance of a professional attitude, and work your way up the ladder as you should...

Photon,I was just curious about their program and share information with people.
But your word,"prostitute...semblance of a professional attitude" that's improper manner in public website.
I don't know about your background in aviation, first you better learn to what is a true professioanl and humble yourself.

Photon

So a true aviation professional is defined by his use of words in public forums? That's interesting.
To be honest, my use of words were very conservative, and I could've used something much stronger.
This is, in my opinion, an apt description of anyone willing to embark on such a program, and if you read my post, you will see that I wasn't directly referring to you in person, but any individual participating in the race to the bottom

edit: you were interested in information about the program, I gave you my 2 cents about the program. Educational isn't it?

jbt1407

The very thought that you are considering this program shows YOU are the epitome of unprofessionalism. Like everyone said, pay your dues and dont drag the industry down for pilots and future pilots like myself.

captjns

K2CLIMB should not considered the prostitute... wrong choice of words.

Eagle Jet is the prostitute, and the individual WILLING to pay to fly, the one looking for instant gratification is the John.

You wake up the next day, minus a bit of money, and self dignity. Where are you? the same place you started.

There are only two winners in this case. Lion Air is the who gets free labor, and Eagle who get's paid for services rendered. And what's the oldest profession on the planet?



By the way anyone who is employed by Eagle Jet... please feel free to chime in.

ImperialxRat

Well, he is here coming here for information, he didn't say he was doing the program, so let's not be too harsh yet.

The above posters are correct by saying that these programs really degrade our industry, and they cause other pilots to dislike you... if you went and did one of these programs you would be embarrassed to talk about it for the rest of your career.

If you want information you could always call them and ask... I'm curious about how you would get an ATP when going into the company with 500 hours, unless they guarantee to get you your ATP once you're qualified. It would probably be 2 years of working before you would qualify for the ATP. I would also want to make sure that it is done in the USA. What is the pay like once you're on board?... would it make up for the $40k initial deposit? How stable is the company?.. Will they even be around in 4 years to honor your 4 year employment contract? Where would you be based? Is there a possibility to upgrade to captain after 4 years, or is it an FO only position? What is the penalty for leaving prior to your 4 years?.. I am assuming there wouldn't be a penalty since you have already paid $40k to the company for an FO job in a 3rd world country.

These are some questions you should call and ask them if you are considering this option. Also ask them how the payment is done... I would negotiate that they deduct from your paycheck over the course of 4 years... which would be $833/mo ($40,000 / 48 months). When you put it that way, it seems ludicrous to pay somebody close to $850/mo for a job... it is supposed to be the other way around - they pay you to work for them.

Let us know what info you find out.

PCLCREW

So your gonna pay a company 40K plus pay for a 737 type... Crazy IMHO... not to mention its the lowest way to try to get a job. If your getting grief here imagine what will happen when you step out into the real world. There are thousands of pilots trying to move on to the next step.. If you think because you have money to burn is gonna make you look better or get into a into a good job... think again. Karma is a B.

hesitant

I can tell you for sure that these pay for training programs are a really bad deal. There may be no upgrade chance at all. Don't forget how important that upgrade is. Other pilots will lose respect for you for good reason. There are plenty of companies that will pay you, so why pay Eagle Jet?