Typhoonpilot

Nick Romer has handled a couple of guys with this audit over the last few years. A few of our friends have used him Sky. Hope you're not subject to this audit.


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PILOTGUY

Should have gone to the Texas Roadhouse. Fresh, better tasting, unfrozen steaks and a far better price.

captjns

True no taxes. But, how else can Maktoum to get his cut of the action?

WorldlyAviator

What do you base that on? Quite a few of us are happy here.

Kapitanleutnant

World…

Really? I haven't flown with a satisfied EK pilot for a year now!

Why does EK have such a punitive culture?… guilty until you can prove innocence? Shoot first, ask questions later? Any of this ring a bell???

Why do we almost always (7 out of the last 8) have a ULR following leave requiring us to lose 3 days for "acclimatization" from our much needed holiday. Is there any real reason for this other than to just penalize us? Why do they have to treat us like this?

Why does a chief pilot tell one of his pilots that he will "bury you in the sand if this happens again" due to questioning a flight plan having 10's and 12's on the turbulence indicator on the OFP across the Himalayas? In a western civilized country, that would be a serious threat and subject to police involvement.

92 hours a month with average of 10 "XX" days off a month. How long can a body do that before it fails??? Even GE says to only run the engines at max power for less than 5 minutes!!

Why does Al Reda feel the need to limit us to a max of 5 days off in a row… period? And no more than 15 days off a month? He was quoted as actually saying if you have more time off than this, you are stealing from the company! If I can fly 92 hours with 3 ULR's, why not? And yes, they are now starting to roster us with 3 ULR's per month.

EK makes a BILLION dollar "NET" profit…. and we don't get a pay raise???? Nothing!!! And a measly 3 week bonus??? Made a lot less profit in the past years but got a lot more than this! A real slap in the face to all of the hard working employees at the airline.

Not today and probably not tomorrow, but someday in the future EK will lose a goodly number of pilots due to being treated with such disdain and disrespect.

Oddly enough I am content enough to stay here a while longer but I've not talked to a "happy camper" at EK in the flight deck for probably a year! At this point, I'm only in it for the money and like so many others… will NOT be going the extra mile at all…. nor will I extend discretion. Luckily for us, when EASA comes into effect next February, we will not be able to accomplish the Annex 1 turns to India without either 3 pilots or a layover.

Happy??? Not one single individual I've spoken to on the flight deck in the past year is "happy" here.

But… enjoy your time here, Worldly Aviator

Kap

PILOTGUY

I have always been quite pleased with EK until the pay increment this year. It was a pure insult. We also had a profit share target for 14/15 known well over a month before the increment was announced. So why did we have to wait a month? Can't no a target without knowing your costs.

I still enjoy Dubai and my job. But as many have said and some have learned, EK is not for everyone. Too much money for me to consider moving back the the States and taking a massive paycut though.

Desertflyer

Acclimatized - The crew member will remain acclimatized thereafter until a DUTY period finishes at a place where local time differs by more than 2 hours from that at point of departure.

Holiday is not a duty.

The rest I agree completely

Kapitanleutnant

DesertFlyer:

Me thinks if you ever came back from leave to do a ULR and weren't "acclimatized" e.g., not in Dubai for 3 local nights prior, you'd get a nasty-gram from the Stasi. While it's not happened to me personally, have heard it happen to more than just a few others.

"It's not how we interpret it" is the given answer from what I'm told. And evidently it is indeed checked by said Stasi.

Keep Recovering!

Kap

Snarge

wow.... US Air Line pilots are fighting ME carriers take over of the global market and guys on APC want to know... what's in it for me... keep it up... we will all be working for Emirates.... or not at all

Typhoonpilot

Not that I am defending Emirates, but let's just get this straight. The world population is now over 7 billion. The United States population is just over 300 million. Let's just say under 5% of the global total.

So help me out here. The Middle East carriers are taking over the global airline market is what you said, correct? What percentage of the global airline market should the U.S. carriers have? Just so we know what is fair and what is not fair.

Herein lies the problem. It's not that the U.S. carriers should not capture a good percentage of the global travel market. The USA still has a larger percentage of travelers than most other countries, but how to capture it? ALPA and the management of the U.S. majors seems to think that protectionism is the way forward. Protectionism of the U.S. market. That limits U.S. carriers to an ever decreasing percentage of global travel. Which over the long term will mean that U.S. carriers will increasingly be marginalized by carriers that are able to capture that market. How does that help U.S. airline pilots?

I believe the protectionist strategy will fail over the long run. I believe the U.S. carriers should, in conjunction with the U.S. government, go after 5th and 7th freedom flying wherever they can. I believe they should try to capture the other 6+ billion possible passengers in the rest of the world if they want to have a hope of staying in business over the long run.

That is the only true way forward. This protectionist crap has got to be shown for what it is.

It was the same way when RJs came into existence. The senior 30-50% of the airline seniority list wanted protectionism so they sacrificed the bottom 50% ( many of whom bought into the argument that protectionism would work ) to get scope clauses that basically destroyed the profession and made it a two tiered system of haves and have nots. They can't learn from their mistakes, they want to try protectionism yet again. Unbelievable!!



Typhoonpilot