Turkish Airlines - Non-Type Rated B777, B737,
04-18-2014, 07:25 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
Attended the LAX Roadshow.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
04-18-2014, 07:32 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by MiLa
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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
Attended the LAX Roadshow.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
Thanks for the great info. I was also planning to attend the roadshow but had a scheduling conflict. Did they give you an idea for the timeframe to get to the wide bodies?
Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
Attended the LAX Roadshow.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
Thanks for the great info. I was also planning to attend the roadshow but had a scheduling conflict. Did they give you an idea for the timeframe to get to the wide bodies?
04-18-2014, 01:24 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
Attended the LAX Roadshow.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
Thanks for the info sir. Kindly check your pm.
04-18-2014, 01:24 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by olympic
Have a few buddies who sat right seat on the 320 for less than a year and are now flying right seat on the 330. Much better schedule, almost commuting. 8-10 days off straight per month maybe more if you fly a lot of the longer flights, USA/JAPAN etc. The same occurs for 737 to 777, not sure how long it takes though.
If the Lira wasn't dropping it would be a good place, but with the unpredictability of the country as of late, and the company always changing their Expat FO upgrade requirements I see it more as a stepping stone to go to another company in the region.
If the Lira wasn't dropping it would be a good place, but with the unpredictability of the country as of late, and the company always changing their Expat FO upgrade requirements I see it more as a stepping stone to go to another company in the region.
Olympic, kindly check your pm.
04-18-2014, 01:28 PM
#46
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Position: 737 FO/Capt/FO
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Requirements
Originally Posted by travelair
Turkish will not take you if you are over 45 or have not flown 6 months of the last 12 on acceptable type. It will be nice when the tables turn on the foreign airlines with their ridiculous requirements.
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04-18-2014, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Starlifter
Yes, this is what brought me back to the US. Have the EASA ATP, EASA type, plenty of hours and right to live and work in Europe...but not the youth!
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04-18-2014, 08:49 PM
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Age
Originally Posted by travelair
Turkish will not take you if you are over 45 or have not flown 6 months of the last 12 on acceptable type. It will be nice when the tables turn on the foreign airlines with their ridiculous requirements.
Absolutely rediculous to think of it. 45 is nothing in this day and age.
04-19-2014, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedTaped
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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
Attended the LAX Roadshow.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
Thanks for the good info. Seniority List and Union Protection sound like a step forward. Any word if they will place candidates directly on the wide body?
Originally Posted by FLowpayFO
Attended the LAX Roadshow.
Very professional and nice group of people. They had a 1.5 hr presentation on what they can offer and had a one presenter talking through a slide show, and three people (2 HR, 1 line pilot) taking questions afterwards.
It's evident the company is trying to move forward and demonstrate huge ambitions in competing with the ME3. An example is they state they are a 4 star airline, soon to become a 5 star airline. So with this in mind I feel they are trying to attract good applicants that want to stick around for the long term.
This is not a contract, this is a permanent position that gets you on the seniority list and you will become a member of the union. Once you get on a wide body it becomes a commutable roster if you wish, meaning enough days off in between pairings to fly home. (Two ID90's per month with options to sit in Flight Attendant jumpseats as a last resort, thats gonna hurt from the states though, haha)
For FAA and ICAO guys, you will receive a validation on your license. This makes me question if you will have to do a EASA conversion eventually down the road. Either way, if you are making good money, enjoy the job, I suppose this would be a minor hurdle in the grand scheme.
Non-Type Rated guys will get a bond, though not official, it was looking to be around €20,000 over 3 year period deducted monthly.
Invited to attend assessment in Istanbul.
Thanks for the good info. Seniority List and Union Protection sound like a step forward. Any word if they will place candidates directly on the wide body?
They fire people at will with the slightest mistake like landing unstable. ( if you land 1100 fpm vs 1000) you are considered "yabanci"
Just because you are on seniority list doesn't mean that you will not be let go out of seniority. ( there is no furlough in turkey. )
The union is made up of ex military pilots that collect your money and have some time with that. No programs like ASAP or HIMS exist.
Knowing what you are getting into will make you happier down the road.
As far as 45 rule is concerned it is stupid I know, also if you are stuck in a type after 50 , say 320, you cannot change aircraft type any more. So wide body might go to a junior pilot.
Go knowing all these...
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