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Old 08-14-2015, 06:11 PM   #141  
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Oh well... He still disagrees, as does the rest of his 380 crew. I'll be sure to tell them they're all wrong when I meet them for drinks later.

Make sure they buy the drinks since they're so rich!
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:26 PM   #142  
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My income is more than sufficient to keep up with QF lads but thanks for the tip!
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My income is more than sufficient to keep up with QF lads but thanks for the tip!
You are indeed...FUNNY!
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This airline loses an average of 1.75 pilots a day due to the work conditions. I have 5 friends working there with a lot of TT and qualifications. Having come back very recently from the Middle East, allow me to inform you that you HAVE NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. You will be fired on the spot and you will be asked to leave with the clothes on your back.
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This airline loses an average of 1.75 pilots a day due to the work conditions. I have 5 friends working there with a lot of TT and qualifications. Having come back very recently from the Middle East, allow me to inform you that you HAVE NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. You will be fired on the spot and you will be asked to leave with the clothes on your back.
Not to be a smart ass as I have heard this before but could you give some examples of ridiculous firings?
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:10 AM   #146  
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This airline loses an average of 1.75 pilots a day due to the work conditions. I have 5 friends working there with a lot of TT and qualifications. Having come back very recently from the Middle East, allow me to inform you that you HAVE NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER. You will be fired on the spot and you will be asked to leave with the clothes on your back.
I work there.
This is simply not true!
It is like any other job. You go to work and fly your trips and go home and enjoy life, and no one says a word to you.

We do lose pilots, and in my experience that is mostly due to family issues, or people just get tired of being an expat. The expat life isn't for everyone, and it is a good thing for some people for a few years, and then time to move on. As far at 1.75 a day, that number sounds a bit high to me. That would be 638 per year, and I can't imagine it is that high (we have about 2,700 pilots on the property). Half that sounds more realistic. But it is not typically an airline where you get a job and stay for 30 years like AA / UA / DL (some do stay long term).

People do get fired for mistakes. You have no union to protect you, and if you screw up you will be out. The company strongly emphasizes stabilized approaches, and if you go around for being unstabilized at 1000 feet that is fine. But if you are unstable at 1000 and continue, you will be fired. Period. Dating flight attendants is fine, but admitting to having sex with flight attendants will get you fired. I heard of an A330 captain who got fired for extending the landing gear 20 knots over the max gear extension speed. We recently had a B777 incident (actually classified as an accident by the FAA) in MIA. You can look it up and read about it online. I don't know any details other than what is on the internet, but my gut feelings is that all four pilots in the cockpit at that time will be fired for that one.

For me, it has been a great job and I'm happy there. My career will be over in 7 years, and so far I've never needed a union to protect me. I've worked for US airlines and felt some people should have been fired who weren't. Most pilots at QR that I know are happy and do not feel threatened in any way by the company. It is not an adversarial relationship with management, but they do expect us to operate their airplanes by the book.

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Old 09-22-2015, 01:39 PM   #147  
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See, these numbers need to be closer to $200k without having to try to hard...Normal line FO's flying 80 hours a month with 15 days off...This should be the minimum standard..I personally think that a starting salary of $160,000 a year as a first year FO is fair...Normal FO pay should go to $250,000 and Captains should make $360,000-$400,000...20% towards the retirement plan....This is where we were supposed to be in terms of pay for the U.S. Legacy Carriers...Still lacking because no real retirement plan in place - A Fund,etc...
That's low pay in any regard, I have a friend at Skywest in the USA thats made 360K already...
OOPS...That was for 10 years.
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Not to be a smart ass as I have heard this before but could you give some examples of ridiculous firings?

Well here's one...a crew lined up on the incorrect runway and when realizing their mistake advised ATC who then said something to the effect of "no worries, cleared to land on that runway". ATC reported it and I understand the crew was terminated.


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Met a friendly QR 777 CA today. He said there was a plan for a possible JFK and IAD domicile in the near future. Thoughts?
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Met a friendly QR 777 CA today. He said there was a plan for a possible JFK and IAD domicile in the near future. Thoughts?
No way. American's aren't very well liked here and we are hardly a large enough group for them to consider extending perks like that. More likely for them to start Al Maha and force people to move to Dammam or some other such vacation spot.
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