Norwegian launches FLL to Guadaloupe
#21
They were hiring for a Florida and a New York base, mostly F/As.
They would also hire Pilots so as to prove they are creating jobs in the US with the going Local rate.
(Let's take a look at that: 787 Captains in the US, even Junior guys should see at least $250k a year. Norwegain pays about half of that.
On the other hand, 747-400 and MD-11 guys from the MIA corrosion corner get compensated about the same in the left seat: $110k if lucky and before overtime, International Widebody. SkyLease and similar like Centurion, Western Global, etc.)
#22
My information may be outdated by 6 months.
They were hiring for a Florida and a New York base, mostly F/As.
They would also hire Pilots so as to prove they are creating jobs in the US with the going Local rate.
(Let's take a look at that: 787 Captains in the US, even Junior guys should see at least $250k a year. Norwegain pays about half of that.
On the other hand, 747-400 and MD-11 guys from the MIA corrosion corner get compensated about the same in the left seat: $110k if lucky and before overtime, International Widebody. SkyLease and similar like Centurion, Western Global, etc.)
They were hiring for a Florida and a New York base, mostly F/As.
They would also hire Pilots so as to prove they are creating jobs in the US with the going Local rate.
(Let's take a look at that: 787 Captains in the US, even Junior guys should see at least $250k a year. Norwegain pays about half of that.
On the other hand, 747-400 and MD-11 guys from the MIA corrosion corner get compensated about the same in the left seat: $110k if lucky and before overtime, International Widebody. SkyLease and similar like Centurion, Western Global, etc.)
#23
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Position: Future career pilot
Posts: 5
I see this thread is a little dated, but thought I would contribute this:
Norwegian job opening for 787 FO FLL base
https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0
Norwegian job opening for 787 FO FLL base
https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0
#24
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Capt 777/744
Posts: 36
NAI USA : " Suckers Wanted in the USA "
NAI USA : " Suckers Wanted in the USA "
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--- Background:
Link - https://www.thestreet.com/story/1253...them-well.html
At the start of NAI's inception in 2014, Its CEO, Kjos, stated on record: " I need Experienced Pilots and I pay Them Well".
In his statement : Norwegian pays its captains about $170,000 annually and pays first officers about half that, Kjos said. A typical hire might be a pilot who is about to retire, has flown 20 years for a major European carrier and would like to spend a few years flying the Boeing 787 and living in Bangkok. "They think the pay and salary are quite good," Kjos said, adding: "For me to sleep well at night, I need experienced long-haul pilots."
--- Summary:
Their CEO stated on record, $170,000 yearly, which is over $ 14,000 month, - and - demands 20 years major European airline experience ?
Their FLL wanted ad states " Captain $10,000 month, which is $ 120,000 yearly, which is - $50,000 LESS than his own statement on record,
- and -
Experience "1,000 hours on a wide body or narrow body aircraft in long haul operation ", far away from his own bold statement , of " flown 20 years for a major European carrier ".
--- Conclusion:
NAI's CEO speaking out of both sides of his mouth - OR - simply " Suckers Wanted in the USA ".
Which one is it Mr Kjos ???
There is not enough "Ambien" in the world for this kind of Disparate Monkey Business .
The bottom line is Exploitation for those willing to accept this second class citizen status, under Kjos's USA project.
Furthermore, It is highly amusing. Anybody can spin anything with various BS and non sense blah blah. The ONLY thing that counts here is the FACT , that NAI pays $170,000 in Bangkok and offers $120,000 in Ft.Lauderdale.
$50,000 LESS. " Suckers Wanted in the USA "
Again 170 VS 120 . Period. End of Story.
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---------------
--- Background:
Link - https://www.thestreet.com/story/1253...them-well.html
At the start of NAI's inception in 2014, Its CEO, Kjos, stated on record: " I need Experienced Pilots and I pay Them Well".
In his statement : Norwegian pays its captains about $170,000 annually and pays first officers about half that, Kjos said. A typical hire might be a pilot who is about to retire, has flown 20 years for a major European carrier and would like to spend a few years flying the Boeing 787 and living in Bangkok. "They think the pay and salary are quite good," Kjos said, adding: "For me to sleep well at night, I need experienced long-haul pilots."
--- Summary:
Their CEO stated on record, $170,000 yearly, which is over $ 14,000 month, - and - demands 20 years major European airline experience ?
Their FLL wanted ad states " Captain $10,000 month, which is $ 120,000 yearly, which is - $50,000 LESS than his own statement on record,
- and -
Experience "1,000 hours on a wide body or narrow body aircraft in long haul operation ", far away from his own bold statement , of " flown 20 years for a major European carrier ".
--- Conclusion:
NAI's CEO speaking out of both sides of his mouth - OR - simply " Suckers Wanted in the USA ".
Which one is it Mr Kjos ???
There is not enough "Ambien" in the world for this kind of Disparate Monkey Business .
The bottom line is Exploitation for those willing to accept this second class citizen status, under Kjos's USA project.
Furthermore, It is highly amusing. Anybody can spin anything with various BS and non sense blah blah. The ONLY thing that counts here is the FACT , that NAI pays $170,000 in Bangkok and offers $120,000 in Ft.Lauderdale.
$50,000 LESS. " Suckers Wanted in the USA "
Again 170 VS 120 . Period. End of Story.
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#25
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Capt 777/744
Posts: 36
Further, there are well over 100 plus pages in, airlinepilotforums, and, pprune, about underhanded Norwegian tactics NLH / NAI, and , many press reports from 2014 to present, on and on.
Now they are actively targeting suckers in this country, and, it is highly amusing that some disconnected poorly informed souls here are in a lala fantasy land.
Yet they don't have US-DOT approval, but, they are in a "hurry to hire US pilots".
And by their NAI-USA COO admittance they are just "looking for 24 pilots for one plane, to start some time in the first six months of 2017.
1 base captain + 9 captains + 5 relief captains + 9 f/os."
In addition, for Non-rated 777/787 , they have a 3 year training bond upfront. 30k for Boeing pilots and 40k for non-Boeing pilots, again upfront. Offer: Low substandard pay with an ironclad style training bond thru an agency and not a direct contract.
Furthermore, In Norway, their home base European operation, their CEO admitted a few months ago, that they had to cancel many flights due to lack of pilots, and he stated 265 pilots must get hired this year in their European operation to avoid further flight cancellations. They had to pay their existing pilots quadruple rates to fly overtime to avoid further cancellations as a quick fix.
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#26
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Capt 777/744
Posts: 36
Some of you here are just clueless and then on top of it you want to comment with total non-sense.
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Norwegian -- Same Company and Same CEO - All operations with 737s and 787s -
"different locations / names" for numerous reasons of convenience:
CEO - Bjorn Kjos, since 2002. Former RN Air Force Pilot and Attorney. One of the founding partners.
Norwegian Air Shuttle
Norwegian Long Haul
Norwegian Air UK
Norwegian Air International
Norwegian Air UK failed to obtain US DOT approval / permit.
Norwegian Air International still pending US DOT approval / permit,
NAI-USA 787 / FLL does NOT have any approval.
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Last edited by Marvelman; 10-29-2016 at 08:44 AM.
#27
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Capt 777/744
Posts: 36
Posted Today --Link
Norwegian B787 - FLL based - Page 3 - PPRuNe Forums
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Dagens Naeringsliv or DN, Norway’s leading business newspaper, article:
“Kjos aircraft and Spinning Mill Ltd.” – “The boss and spin doctor”
Kjos Flymaskin og Spinneri Ltd. (DN+) - DN.no
Those seeking an indirect and precarious, but “more prestigious” position with Norwegian, should accept the OSM invitation to submit questions, as stated in their advertisement:-
Captains B787 US, FLL - OSM Aviation Group
“OSM will answer all your queries relating to the contract, employment and training cost bond”
[email protected] - Please provide full details:
A sample working pattern/roster expected with Norwegian.
Roster bidding/request options.
Health Insurance plan for employee and family members.
Retirement plan.
Employee and family travel benefits.
Incremental pay scales.
Seniority list promotion opportunities with Norwegian.
The training cost payable before beginning the assignment, specifically;
(i) Refund should an EASA license not be obtained within the stated period.
(ii) Refund should Norwegian terminate my Service Provider Agreement with OSM for any reason.
(iii) The interest earned.
The affect on my employment with OSM and my options for any alternative OSM airline assignment or notice period payment, should Norwegian terminate my Service Provider Agreement before the 3-year term.
A sample employment contract for review.
You can also keep shtum, apply and join, hand over the “training cost” pay-to-fly cash, roll over and be unpleasantly surprised by copious smiling rock ape hypocrisy.
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Norwegian B787 - FLL based - Page 3 - PPRuNe Forums
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Dagens Naeringsliv or DN, Norway’s leading business newspaper, article:
“Kjos aircraft and Spinning Mill Ltd.” – “The boss and spin doctor”
Kjos Flymaskin og Spinneri Ltd. (DN+) - DN.no
Those seeking an indirect and precarious, but “more prestigious” position with Norwegian, should accept the OSM invitation to submit questions, as stated in their advertisement:-
Captains B787 US, FLL - OSM Aviation Group
“OSM will answer all your queries relating to the contract, employment and training cost bond”
[email protected] - Please provide full details:
A sample working pattern/roster expected with Norwegian.
Roster bidding/request options.
Health Insurance plan for employee and family members.
Retirement plan.
Employee and family travel benefits.
Incremental pay scales.
Seniority list promotion opportunities with Norwegian.
The training cost payable before beginning the assignment, specifically;
(i) Refund should an EASA license not be obtained within the stated period.
(ii) Refund should Norwegian terminate my Service Provider Agreement with OSM for any reason.
(iii) The interest earned.
The affect on my employment with OSM and my options for any alternative OSM airline assignment or notice period payment, should Norwegian terminate my Service Provider Agreement before the 3-year term.
A sample employment contract for review.
You can also keep shtum, apply and join, hand over the “training cost” pay-to-fly cash, roll over and be unpleasantly surprised by copious smiling rock ape hypocrisy.
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#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 212
Hey Guys
Hello everyone, I have completed my application online and on test 4 for Norwegian. I currently am employed by mesa airlines best regional in the "world" LOL. Can someone who works at Norwegian PM me. I need to get out Mesa, as much as I love the PEOPLE the management and company does not have my best interest in mind and I'm ok with that. I have 7000 hours time majority of it in turbo props I have over 1000 hours in jets. I'm just trying to find a descent company I fit in and make an OK living. I've tried United, JetBlue, Spirit, and a list of others. Not tooting my own horn but I am descent pilot and everyone I've known or flown with enjoys flying with me so I guess I'm ok to fly with. I just asked someone about Xtra airways and the captain there contacted me so I'm throwing my hat in that rink too. I hate to look overseas but if my own home people don't want me, I have to do what I have to do.
Thanks for any help in advance, Ill finish up those test within two days my head hurts I'm a pilot not an English professor
Thanks for any help in advance, Ill finish up those test within two days my head hurts I'm a pilot not an English professor
Last edited by avi8tor614; 02-10-2017 at 01:57 PM. Reason: Failed english class LOL
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