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#21
Speed, Power, Accuracy
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: PIC
Posts: 1,701
Are you saying the union didn't expend enough negotiating capital on you guys? Based on your lack of participation at pickets, and just doing your jobs (instead of extending a $%# ton), the union probably assumed things were pretty good for the GLC crews. They focused their efforts on the pilots that showed their dissatisfaction with the contract by picketing and not going above and beyond during negotiations.
If you were one of the few that showed up to a picket, or said "no thanks" to an offer to extend, thanks. If you were one of the guys that decided to extend and spend an extra night in Rome, or couldn't be bothered to attend one of the pickets, I hope you enjoy your middle seat, you earned it.
If you were one of the few that showed up to a picket, or said "no thanks" to an offer to extend, thanks. If you were one of the guys that decided to extend and spend an extra night in Rome, or couldn't be bothered to attend one of the pickets, I hope you enjoy your middle seat, you earned it.
As for me, I have 5 picket pins, haven't extended since GW Bush was President, voted NO and STILL only do my job.
#22
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
No it's not. Had the GLC guys just done their jobs, and not extended, that would have put a lot more pressure on the company. Selling off an XL trip from FL to NY is a lot different than selling off a London to Chicago. Did you see the monthly posts on the MB showing who extended? It was pretty much the same group, month after month.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 224
The GLC captains should have gotten less.
Between their extending and years of service - they have shown both their willingness to accept whatever the company offers and no indication of being a threat to leave or of striking.
As a result, the pay for the bottom 25% virtually guarantees you'll have nothing but a revolving door for the next 10+ years.
Should have given the most senior crews NOTHING, walked back their pay (or made the entire payscale not seat dependant) and tried to push them into retirement.
Between their extending and years of service - they have shown both their willingness to accept whatever the company offers and no indication of being a threat to leave or of striking.
As a result, the pay for the bottom 25% virtually guarantees you'll have nothing but a revolving door for the next 10+ years.
Should have given the most senior crews NOTHING, walked back their pay (or made the entire payscale not seat dependant) and tried to push them into retirement.
#24
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
The GLC captains should have gotten less.
Between their extending and years of service - they have shown both their willingness to accept whatever the company offers and no indication of being a threat to leave or of striking.
As a result, the pay for the bottom 25% virtually guarantees you'll have nothing but a revolving door for the next 10+ years.
Should have given the most senior crews NOTHING, walked back their pay (or made the entire payscale not seat dependant) and tried to push them into retirement.
Between their extending and years of service - they have shown both their willingness to accept whatever the company offers and no indication of being a threat to leave or of striking.
As a result, the pay for the bottom 25% virtually guarantees you'll have nothing but a revolving door for the next 10+ years.
Should have given the most senior crews NOTHING, walked back their pay (or made the entire payscale not seat dependant) and tried to push them into retirement.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 162
No it's not. Had the GLC guys just done their jobs, and not extended, that would have put a lot more pressure on the company. Selling off an XL trip from FL to NY is a lot different than selling off a London to Chicago. Did you see the monthly posts on the MB showing who extended? It was pretty much the same group, month after month.
#29
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: right
Posts: 48
#30
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
Doubtful. The percentages of issues and occurrences is not uncommon to the industry. All the airlines have guys gobbling up open time, plenty of non participation at pickets and other awareness events and those that will never fatigue, not write broken stuff up etc. if the union had held its ground on lots of issues and sections, as well as really listened to the pilot group, it would have been different. Just because pay is important, doesn't mean you give everything else up to raise salaries.
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