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Old 05-17-2019, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs View Post
And this ^^
No offense to the military but too many of you all (and retired airlines) bring the mentality that this is a “Great retirement job” or “I have my pension and my wife makes a ton so I don’t need any more money”.
Take that attitude and shove it!
It is not helping your fellow pilots who want or need to make more and everyone should strive for market level +
No matter what your circumstance.
x2.

I may look to the corporate world once retired from both mil and airlines, will probably be doing it for fun, but will not do it on the cheap.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wankel7 View Post
NetJets pay starts at 12:01 am on day one of your tour.

Airline pay starts when you successfully complete your commute and sign in. Don't make the commute don't get paid.

This further highlights the fact that it is nearly impossible to compare the two jobs.
Well, the way you’re paid at NJA versus an airline is completely different. We can all agree on that and I am with you 100%.

However, if we compare days gone a month, and the money you make from it, whether you commute, or live in base, you can still work less days a month including commuting, and make more money, often considerably more money, than you would at NJA. This is why I argue that your positive space ticket is a commute at NJA. Sure you deal with commuter clauses and the potential for missing a trip, but you have way more uncertainty at NJA as to where you are sent, how many legs you do, and what’s stacked on after your airline.
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:36 PM
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Your post from just this thread. I am not going back to other threads to highlight your weapons grade hypocrisy.

"I was a 12 year Capt at NetJets and pulled the ejection handle. Second year FO pay at UPS was 235k. More than I EVER made at NetJets."

"Can you imagine NetJets letting you take an aircraft to Normandy France with your family on it for $316? Because that’s what my travel-benefits just let me do."


You should take the same hint as the good Marine. Instead, you are an ignorant "potato peeling enlisted" dude who is swinging your little manhood around like you have something to prove. You and the likes of OhSnap and F16Driver need an effing hobby. What a clown show you guys are. I know exactly who two of you are...and none of this surprises me. I look forward to your witty and well thought out response...or those from your fellow circle jerkers. Don't disappoint.



And people wonder why...




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You just can’t resist bragging.... I hate flying with guys like you. You’re always bragging and showing off what you bought, or how great your kids are, and how awesome your life is.

What a bunch of pooo....

You should take a hint from a certain NJ regular on here who was a marine, also has a wife with a career and probably has 4x the money you do, and never says a word about any of it.




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Old 05-17-2019, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Guard View Post
Majors are great if you live in base, I did 2 years at CAL before getting furloughed and hated my crash pad in east jersey,
Was it really continental, or was it co express? Because I’m starting to wonder if you were real mainline dude ....or just a pretender....
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Old 05-18-2019, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs View Post
And this ^^
No offense to the military but too many of you all (and retired airlines) bring the mentality that this is a “Great retirement job” or “I have my pension and my wife makes a ton so I don’t need any more money”.
Take that attitude and shove it!
It is not helping your fellow pilots who want or need to make more and everyone should strive for market level +
No matter what your circumstance.
None-the-less, NetJets IS a great place to fly for those who have timed out under 121 and still like/want to fly. Since you won't make captain pay for 13 years, you better have your financial goals made, but it really is a great place to work. The negativity on this forum is not representative of the working environment on the job. Fractional flying bears no similarity to 121 flying. Those who continually compare the two worlds are wasting time. If you're done with 121, come enjoy a different flying job.
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BAe3100FO View Post
Was it really continental, or was it co express? Because I’m starting to wonder if you were real mainline dude ....or just a pretender....
Oh dude, I'll tell you the same advice I got, once furloughed once burned, I was lucky to have a fallback position, I think scheduled service airlines are great, I had to get a real job and fly in the reserves once I got furloughed (I'm not aware expess ever furloughed anyone) but thanks to our great President I got laid off from my real job as well and went back to flying, I don't take anything away from you or others at majors (tone of my unit buddies are at all of them), I use my best friends buddy passes all the time. I am amazed at the trolling people do on this site and it tells me you really aren't that happy sitting in your crash pad on reserve jumping out of your skin every time the phone rings then getting ****ed off when you actually have to go fly, been there done it, reserve sucks, 2-4 days off sucks, enjoy and best of luck, I'll take my 7 months off a year and a schedule I know for at least the next year every October and enjoy my $100K, golf game has never been better! And I admit I have not been at an airline in 18 years, I am guessing I am a bit older than you!
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:14 PM
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This guy kills me. He already said he worked for Express.

For anyone considering NJA, just realize it is reserve for life only without any decent work rules. You are on perpetual reserve minute to minute, you are never assigned a trip, only flights and are subject to the whims of scheduling every day of your career. You can't bid pass or fly and have no say in your flight assignments ever. And of course reserve is running months if not weeks at the major airlines now, and often it is a very good deal. In my base a junior Captain can't hold reserve, it goes senior.

Choose wisely and don't listen to this jack wagon.
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Old 05-18-2019, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Guard View Post
Oh dude, I'll tell you the same advice I got, once furloughed once burned, I was lucky to have a fallback position, I think scheduled service airlines are great, I had to get a real job and fly in the reserves once I got furloughed (I'm not aware expess ever furloughed anyone) but thanks to our great President I got laid off from my real job as well and went back to flying, I don't take anything away from you or others at majors (tone of my unit buddies are at all of them), I use my best friends buddy passes all the time. I am amazed at the trolling people do on this site and it tells me you really aren't that happy sitting in your crash pad on reserve jumping out of your skin every time the phone rings then getting ****ed off when you actually have to go fly, been there done it, reserve sucks, 2-4 days off sucks, enjoy and best of luck, I'll take my 7 months off a year and a schedule I know for at least the next year every October and enjoy my $100K, golf game has never been better! And I admit I have not been at an airline in 18 years, I am guessing I am a bit older than you!
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Old 05-19-2019, 04:23 AM
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Ahhh this thread keeps humming along, way after it jumped the shark , cheers from greater Detroit, back to my coffee: )
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Guard View Post
Oh dude, I'll tell you the same advice I got, once furloughed once burned, I was lucky to have a fallback position, I think scheduled service airlines are great, I had to get a real job and fly in the reserves once I got furloughed (I'm not aware expess ever furloughed anyone) but thanks to our great President I got laid off from my real job as well and went back to flying, I don't take anything away from you or others at majors (tone of my unit buddies are at all of them), I use my best friends buddy passes all the time. I am amazed at the trolling people do on this site and it tells me you really aren't that happy sitting in your crash pad on reserve jumping out of your skin every time the phone rings then getting ****ed off when you actually have to go fly, been there done it, reserve sucks, 2-4 days off sucks, enjoy and best of luck, I'll take my 7 months off a year and a schedule I know for at least the next year every October and enjoy my $100K, golf game has never been better! And I admit I have not been at an airline in 18 years, I am guessing I am a bit older than you!
While years of reserve may hav once been a major airline reality the current circumstances have changed.

In the last few years iv flown with new pilots that have never been on reserve. And as in our pwa im guessing most majors have reserve rules that make it an attractive schedule bid. You will see pilots across the category choosing reserve as a desired schedule.

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