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05-27-2006 | 05:00 PM
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From: CA A320/A319/A321
Originally Posted by jtf560
Upgrades will be two to three years minimum and only if everything works perfectly. For an upgrade in two years the company would have to keep current captain to fo ratios of 2 to 1, get aircraft on property probably faster than the manufacturers can build them, and either hire another 1300 pilots (if hired today) or have literally hundreds of senior pilots retire and only hire another 1000 or so behind you. Things in aviation change all the time and the massive growth that the company is going for could stop or slow down at any time. We have a backlog of customers waiting to get in, but things can and do change. The company was set to grow like crazy starting in 2000 and 2001 and while there was some growth, things stopped for a couple of years.
It is possible to be on duty at the hotel- it happens sometimes if your airplane is broken, but they could call you out any time if the airplane gets fixed, if they want to airline to another airplane, or put you in a taxi, limo, or rental car to get you to another airplane. You have to be ready to leave the hotel within 30 minutes of call out if on duty at the hotel.
It is almost impossible to say much for sure about the schedules other than they will change all the time- sometimes even enroute during a ferry leg. You will most likely report to your base on day one and get home by midnight or within a 14 hour duty day on day 7. If you are on the reserve schedule you have even less certainty than that. Change is the name of the game with the fractionals so if you have a problem with that (and some newhires are already complaining about it) then do yourself a favor and don't do it. I made the change from the airlines and I love it. I hope to upgrade before year 4, but if it doesn't happen I'll still be making nearly what the old contract paid captains on year 4.
It is possible to be on duty at the hotel- it happens sometimes if your airplane is broken, but they could call you out any time if the airplane gets fixed, if they want to airline to another airplane, or put you in a taxi, limo, or rental car to get you to another airplane. You have to be ready to leave the hotel within 30 minutes of call out if on duty at the hotel.
It is almost impossible to say much for sure about the schedules other than they will change all the time- sometimes even enroute during a ferry leg. You will most likely report to your base on day one and get home by midnight or within a 14 hour duty day on day 7. If you are on the reserve schedule you have even less certainty than that. Change is the name of the game with the fractionals so if you have a problem with that (and some newhires are already complaining about it) then do yourself a favor and don't do it. I made the change from the airlines and I love it. I hope to upgrade before year 4, but if it doesn't happen I'll still be making nearly what the old contract paid captains on year 4.
05-27-2006 | 05:54 PM
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All pilots at NetJets get the full type rating. FOs used to do recurrent every 6 months, but now they are going to 12 months for FOs and only CAs every 6 months.
The way the contract is worded, new hires are stuck once they are hired into a domicile until they are in the top 30% and become eligible for homebasing. There are rumors of a couple of guys being allowed to switch domiciles, but nothing in the contract says they have to let you do it. Hopefully that will change. I'm guessing it will be at least a couple of years before any real changes in the system and then only if the company absolutely is having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find good pilots willing to live in the domiciles. With the way the regionals are fighting over eachother's codeshares (and taking concessions) and with so many problems in the airlines in general, I can see a lot more airline guys "seeing the light" and coming over to NetJets, even in the current domiciles. If that happens then there may be no changes to the current domicile system until a new contract is signed- most likely much more than 5 years from now since the current contract has 4.5 years left in it and I'm sure negotiations won't be the smoothest when the time comes.
The way the contract is worded, new hires are stuck once they are hired into a domicile until they are in the top 30% and become eligible for homebasing. There are rumors of a couple of guys being allowed to switch domiciles, but nothing in the contract says they have to let you do it. Hopefully that will change. I'm guessing it will be at least a couple of years before any real changes in the system and then only if the company absolutely is having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find good pilots willing to live in the domiciles. With the way the regionals are fighting over eachother's codeshares (and taking concessions) and with so many problems in the airlines in general, I can see a lot more airline guys "seeing the light" and coming over to NetJets, even in the current domiciles. If that happens then there may be no changes to the current domicile system until a new contract is signed- most likely much more than 5 years from now since the current contract has 4.5 years left in it and I'm sure negotiations won't be the smoothest when the time comes.
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