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Old 01-16-2014, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
Talked to a Netjets CA today. He said things are about to pop. With the new jets all the furloughees will be recalled soon and hiring should start. However, Section 6 negotiations could slow that up a bit.

He said they're working their butts off and need pilots.
Wish I had a nickel for every time I've heard that over the last 4 years.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:13 AM
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Recalls just announced. Starting in March.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by n7715x View Post
Recalls just announced. Starting in March.
I wonder how many furloughees will come back since airline hiring is getting cranked up.

If the number of NetJets' pilots who have asked me for a letter of recommendation to Delta are any indication, there are going to be a lot of folk leaving NetJets as airline hiring continues.

The bottom line: NetJets works pilots a lot harder, and pays a lot less, with virtually no advantage to longevity. A 20 year NetJets pilot flies the same trips as a new hire...forever.

I suspect NetJets is trying to get in front of the avalanche with this recall.
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mooneymite View Post
I wonder how many furloughees will come back since airline hiring is getting cranked up.

If the number of NetJets' pilots who have asked me for a letter of recommendation to Delta are any indication, there are going to be a lot of folk leaving NetJets as airline hiring continues.

The bottom line: NetJets works pilots a lot harder, and pays a lot less, with virtually no advantage to longevity. A 20 year NetJets pilot flies the same trips as a new hire...forever.

I suspect NetJets is trying to get in front of the avalanche with this recall.
Agreed....

There are still a lot of furloughed NJA guys under employed so this is going to be very welcome news for many in the initial recall. I got lucky and ended up at a company your's will possibly buy someday, but if it weren't for getting lucky I would be jumping for joy at the hint of a NJA recall..

Great news for many needing it
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Old 01-16-2014, 08:57 AM
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I know NJ is not paradise but by going back I will work 10 less days a month, make 20k more a year, with free health insurance and live wherever I want. I know a lot of people bettered their careers in 4 years but for a lot of us, we just treaded water
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mooneymite View Post
I suspect NetJets is trying to get in front of the avalanche with this recall.
This is definitely NOT the case. NJs doesn't care if all the furloughees left for another job; they actually would prefer it. When we come back, we will be on a higher pay scale and have to do all the indoc and initial training over again. It would be cheaper for them to start from scratch with new hires. They are just really busy and actually need to recall pilots to get all the work done (supposedly mostly due to "attrition").
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy37 View Post
I know NJ is not paradise.... we just treaded water
I have no doubt pilots will go to NetJets.

Is NetJets re-calling due to expansion, or attrition? Did it say?

If it's due to expansion, that's good!

If attrition, then they are losing experienced pilots who are heading for greener pastures. That would be a sad commentary on NetJets.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:49 AM
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The recalls are 100% due to attrition. Many have left and lots of us are trying to leave. As an sic this is certainly not a career job.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:56 AM
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I guess the upgrade time at NJ is pretty significant if you've had guys on the street for 4 years. What was it before that?
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Old 01-16-2014, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat View Post
I guess the upgrade time at NJ is pretty significant if you've had guys on the street for 4 years. What was it before that?
Junior captain is an aug '05 hire.. However he has been a Captain since roughly 2007... I know a nov '05 hire that is still roughly 45 numbers from the most junior captain. And that doesn't include a lot of guys that bypassed the first chance at upgrade....

I'd guess the returning guys are on an indefinite timeframe for upgrade.. Could be looking at least another 10 yrs which will put many in the 15+ yr upgrade
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