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05-25-2018, 04:30 PM

#1751

FlapsOverspeed

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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer

My expectations aren’t lowered... they’re at an all time high... I expect what’s presented to me to be in line with JetBlue and Alaska... if not, my vote will be to send everyone back to the negotiating table

Really should be looking at DAL, UAL, SWA rates instead.

05-26-2018, 05:55 PM

#1752

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Originally Posted by kspilot

Any word from the NMB?

It's reasonable to assume that the NC and company will get called in sometime next month.

05-27-2018, 10:14 AM

#1753

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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker

It's reasonable to assume that the NC and company will get called in sometime next month.

Um "NEXT" month never comes.....

05-28-2018, 10:56 AM

#1754

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I have been searching the weekly activity reports for the NMB.....
Frontier hasn’t been mentioned since the ibt split......
NO reference to our current mediation?

05-28-2018, 03:47 PM

#1755

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You would not be placing a great deal of faith in the NMB if you watched how they handled the Spirit negotiations.

05-30-2018, 08:49 AM

#1756

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Anybody else get the email about Envoys new 45k signing bonus?

05-30-2018, 09:41 AM

#1757

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Originally Posted by therapysession

Anybody else get the email about Envoys new 45k signing bonus?

I didnt, but I did see their direct entry captain spots.

Makes a guy wonder...but the regionals are a terrible place to be.

05-30-2018, 10:13 AM

#1758

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Originally Posted by FlyingR6

I didnt, but I did see their direct entry captain spots.

Makes a guy wonder...but the regionals are a terrible place to be.

Frontier’s a terrible place to be. At least the regional guys are moving on.

05-30-2018, 10:30 AM

#1759

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

Frontier’s a terrible place to be. At least the regional guys are moving on.

Frontier is terrible, I should rephrase, but there is potential. What you see is what you get at the regionals. And, not all of them are moving on. Ask all the older folks there that are deemed "too old and un-trainable" from the majors. Or the younger people that don't put in enough volunteer work.

05-30-2018, 10:37 AM

#1760

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Originally Posted by FlyingR6

Envoy has flow to American. Your statement is true for those at a regional with no flow, but not Envoy. If I were captain qualified and not close to upgrade at a regional and had the choice between Envoy street
Captain or Frontier new hire I’d definitely go to Envoy.

Heck, if I were a junior captain at a regional with no flow I might do that anyway. You almost have to go somewhere with a partnership with a legacy to get hired by one now. There are exceptions, of course, but most new hires at American are military or flows from Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont. I believe most new hires at Delta are either military or Endeavor/Compass guaranteed interviewees, and United via military or the CPP with Expressjet/Commutair/Mesa.