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Old 08-07-2018 | 07:05 AM
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When do you think we get to hear the results of the University of New Hampshire Survey?
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Old 08-07-2018 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheelswatch
When do you think we get to hear the results of the University of New Hampshire Survey?
You will not. It goes against their negotiating strategies. They wouldn’t want mgmt to know what we really want.
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Old 08-07-2018 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I just think giving advice that you yourself won’t follow is being hypocritical. That is all I’m saying.
So we agree, you are a hypocrite.
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Old 08-07-2018 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
I just think giving advice that you yourself won’t follow is being hypocritical. That is all I’m saying.
He’s already on property... when he got here we were told two year upgrades and a cba right around the corner... if he was a prospective new hire and was telling people not to come here and he did, then that would be hypocritical... I came here because Frontier had potential... and it still does... it just sucks bad right now... which is why I won’t recommend anyone come here... would I go back to my regional now?? Hell no... I make $135k a year flying the absolute least I possibly can... if I were at a regional, would I come here now?? Hell no... the point of mentoring someone is to give them advice and guide them where they may lack knowledge... the advice you’re giving your mentee is terrible... everyone here is backing up what everyone else says... and I understand this is a place to p!ss and moan but it really is that bad... you want some advice... stay on your united thread and b!tch about your profit sharing and the fact you got chicken instead of steak for your crew meal
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Old 08-07-2018 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
How do you guys feel about the current message from our negotiating committe?
They’re not upping the ask, even if we do get released. All of their strategies have failed in getting us a contract in 2017. Fast approaching the end of 2018 and no contract.
Is it our own negotiators or is it strictly ALPA’s strategies that have failed us? The negotiators will surely point the finger in every direction except at themselves.
Where is the transparency and accountability?
I think they will eventually have to up the ask. Probably in two or three years when we actually get to vote. I don't know a single person who's willing to vote yes on the current ask at this point (well one very senior Denver captain who's willing to work for free). It's awful.
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Old 08-07-2018 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer
... you want some advice... stay on your united thread and b!tch about your profit sharing and the fact you got chicken instead of steak for your crew meal
You want what they have yet you mock what they have, with a nasty tone.

How does stereotyping United pilots, who would likely join our picket line if it comes to it, help us?

This guy touched a nerve, true, but damn!
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Old 08-07-2018 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer
would I go back to my regional now?? Hell no... I make $135k a year flying the absolute least I possibly can...
Which is why people still are and will continue to go to Frontier.
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Old 08-07-2018 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by iahflyr
Which is why people still are and will continue to go to Frontier.
^^^^and Indigo knows it
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Old 08-07-2018 | 11:43 AM
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I'm leaving in January. There are plenty of qualified, great captains and fos at Frontier with 4 year degrees. If the legacy carriers think Frontier is competing with them, why don't you guys hire a bunch of our pilots? You'd kill 2 birds with one stone and get an amazing employee.
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Old 08-07-2018 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by InThisTogether
I'm leaving in January. There are plenty of qualified, great captains and fos at Frontier with 4 year degrees. If the legacy carriers think Frontier is competing with them, why don't you guys hire a bunch of our pilots? You'd kill 2 birds with one stone and get an amazing employee.
Congrats. Are the real airlines scheduling classes that far in advance, or are you delaying your departure to see if something happens here?
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