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Old 04-25-2017, 05:17 PM   #1  
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June COLA offered today. 16 CAs and 20 FOs. Didn't we need "all hands on deck" for the summer? What's up with that?
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June COLA offered today. 16 CAs and 20 FOs. Didn't we need "all hands on deck" for the summer? What's up with that?
That's 72 hands we don't need. Any idea if you can still jumpseat / stay in CASS on a COLA?
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More bullsh!t from the company. 11 total pilots offered COLA in March during a slow month and 36 pilots offered COLA during one of the busiest months of the year. Nothing to see here! Several aircraft being returned on lease, and a gap in aircraft deliveries. Why is it so hard to tell your pilot group that? Just have the Chief Pilots office blow smoke up our butts with an "all hands on deck" message a few days prior to a last minute COLA announcement.
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Listen...if you're smart you read between the lines here. They are overstaffed. Don't take a COLA, bid a Short Call Reserve line if you're in base or a Med/Long call line if you're not. Roll the dice and realize you'll likely fly little to nothing and get your guarantee and keep the machine rolling. The Co would love to shed this manpower for a month. Be smart, don't do it, stay engaged and get paid.
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That's 72 hands we don't need. Any idea if you can still jumpseat / stay in CASS on a COLA?
9.D.9. Says there is no change to pass benefits, but the TSA has you taken out of CASS as soon as you go on leave. Each airline has their own rule about OAL pilots on leave using passes, no matter what our contract says.

You can still ride the jumpseat on Frontier since your employment can still be verified without CASS.
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Listen...if you're smart you read between the lines here. They are overstaffed. Don't take a COLA, bid a Short Call Reserve line if you're in base or a Med/Long call line if you're not. Roll the dice and realize you'll likely fly little to nothing and get your guarantee and keep the machine rolling. The Co would love to shed this manpower for a month. Be smart, don't do it, stay engaged and get paid.
Exactly what I was thinking
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Listen...if you're smart you read between the lines here. They are overstaffed. Don't take a COLA, bid a Short Call Reserve line if you're in base or a Med/Long call line if you're not. Roll the dice and realize you'll likely fly little to nothing and get your guarantee and keep the machine rolling. The Co would love to shed this manpower for a month. Be smart, don't do it, stay engaged and get paid.

Well, If you're smart, you may really read between the lines...long term. Yes you think looking at June and see an opportunity to sit at home. Maybe that works. They also could be running this (AGAIN) at a razor thin margin to get by with the min amount of staff. If that's the case, reserves will be working every day. But long term? What do you see? No one can tell the truth for 3 seconds at that building, so how do you know what is going on? Last summer was a melt down. Christmas was a melt down. Followed by "we are hiring and upgrading so much we don't have the sim time to keep up" to "all hands needed on deck" to colas.
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Well, If you're smart, you may really read between the lines...long term. Yes you think looking at June and see an opportunity to sit at home. Maybe that works. They also could be running this (AGAIN) at a razor thin margin to get by with the min amount of staff. If that's the case, reserves will be working every day. But long term? What do you see? No one can tell the truth for 3 seconds at that building, so how do you know what is going on? Last summer was a melt down. Christmas was a melt down. Followed by "we are hiring and upgrading so much we don't have the sim time to keep up" to "all hands needed on deck" to colas.
I'm with monkey. They're offering COLAs because they want per pilot usage as high as possible. This includes reserves. BB and Co is trying to get our bargain basement CASM even lower than it already is in order to make the efficiency numbers look all the more enticing to potential investors. I stopped listening to anything the CPO had to say long ago, it's all smoke and mirrors.
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Well, If you're smart, you may really read between the lines...long term. Yes you think looking at June and see an opportunity to sit at home. Maybe that works. They also could be running this (AGAIN) at a razor thin margin to get by with the min amount of staff. If that's the case, reserves will be working every day. But long term? What do you see? No one can tell the truth for 3 seconds at that building, so how do you know what is going on? Last summer was a melt down. Christmas was a melt down. Followed by "we are hiring and upgrading so much we don't have the sim time to keep up" to "all hands needed on deck" to colas.
They are purely overstaffed. My point was that if people choose to not take the COLAs there's high likelihood that reserve availability will be so deep you'll barely get used. So, 75hrs pay for god knows how little obligation, or ZERO pay and guaranteed no obligation.
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They are purely overstaffed. My point was that if people choose to not take the COLAs there's high likelihood that reserve availability will be so deep you'll barely get used. So, 75hrs pay for god knows how little obligation, or ZERO pay and guaranteed no obligation.
True - I have a friend in Denver that bids short call during slow months and has not worked for 52 days. In spring / summer he bids a line. I would bid reserve if I lived in base.
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