Why don’t we use some “RV” money and go to district court over managements violations of status quo/past practices

 

I've been wondering the exact same thing.

 

Because the courts generally refer you back to arbitration under the RLA since the company claims the issue is a "major" dispute requiring arbitration rather than a simple breach of contract.




And everyone in this industry needs to know, what Frontier management is allowed to get away with sets the stage for the whole industry:

https://www.heraldnet.com/business/f...rline-strikes/

 

Exactly.

Which is why I think the United and Delta MEC should be more vocal about getting Frontier a contract ASAP.

 

Who do you think paid for the Winnebago? F9 MEC has been given support by UAL ALPA.

 

First, by my math ALPA collects enough each month from the F9 pilots alone to afford several RV’s. So while, yes, dues from the ALPA pot pay for things like that please don’t insinuate we are freeloading on the backs of United and Delta.

I’m not talking financial support anyway. How many United or Delta MEC members have picketed on our behalf? Why hasnt ALPA directed the other MEC’s to write letters to the NMB expressing their disdain for how F9 management has handled the process to date and lobby to bring us “into the pattern” before they themselves enter into negotiations? In fact, I think Munoz and Kirby should be lobbying for us too. The longer the NMB lets Indigo get a labor discount the longer United is at a competitive disadvantage.

Excardog is spot on...Indigo/F9 is writing the book that Kirby/United will play by. It’s also in your best interest that we finish this up sooner than later. We all appreciate the “support” (akin to thoughts and prayers) but I’m looking for ALPA to finally put some teeth into this fight.

 

Good points all around.

 

as a Widget guy, what can I do to help?

 

With the exception of the LOA 67 picket, where no OAL pilots were invited and the flash picket, which was totally last minute, there have been numerous pilots from other ALPA carriers, SWAPA, APA as well as non union carriers at all of our pickets.
Teeth?? Telling people to Fu€k off, yelling and screaming and making idle threats might feel good, but it doesn’t advance the ball. ALPA is working hard for us. It is a long drawn out frustrating process, especially when the NMB is rewarding the company’s abysmal behavior, but this is the process. The company’s recent behavior reeks of desperation. They are their own worst enemy and when this is all said and done, we will come out on top. Stay strong and unified!

 

You can just bet the mgmnt groups who’s CBA’s are coming amendable are taking detailed notes on what indigo is getting away with so their actions can be not only mirrored but expanded upon...