InThisTogether

I think Frontier has CCTV and waits until every last passengers shows up and is either boarding or standing in line before canceling a flight.

hilltopflyer

Why would any crew except an extension during negotiations.

PulledBreaker

Go home day

Ni hao

And? Who cares

symbian simian

I commuted international for 7 years, so I think I know about wanting to go home. I really think with all the vacation cancelations and other things I would really not feel like going the extra inch, never mind foot, definitely not mile.

FlyingR6

You guys can throw shade at me and others who think like this, but go home day, especially for a commuter, is golden. It may help the company one time on one flight, but that's MY time that's burning the clock.

I hate being at this place, so if I have to spend an extra hour extending, and not in some random hotel, not getting home until 12 plus hours later, I'm doing it. My family time is the only reprieve from this sh/t show. I'll give a foot to take a mile.

BiffleBalls

I’m with you on this one..

FlyingSlowly

Not I...

I had to respond quite firmly to a fellow regional pilot (who I know to be a Union rep, nonetheless) on one of these forums who suggested that someone go to Frontier because they lived in Denver. I was ashamed of our union representation more than ever at that point.

As far as I'm concerned, going to Frontier right now as a new hire is approaching scab territory for me. (Personal opinion. Yes, I know that technically it isn't, so don't attack me on that point.)

I wish you guys the best. You deserve something much better than what you have. If they don't offer a reasonable deal soon, take courage and ride it out. They'll have to pay up. Management knows that...and if they don't, they won't have an airline worth anything at all.

If they offer a penny less than NK or B6, give them a resounding "NO."

In solidarity---

DENpilot

Probably do the same when you got hydraulic fluid pouring out of the engine or a strip of cord on the tire showing.... 🙄

Wheelswatch

Thank you for this well written post of support and encouragement. I think your phrase"take courage and ride it out" is the reality now. What I'm sensing & hearing is that there is nothing left to do. Our leadership is at a complete loss on how to proceed from here. Even the big agency we voted in is floundering for lack of options. Franke is #winning. Whether we put ourselves in this corner or not is irrelevant at this point. It's going to be a long time I fear. People aren't leaving, newhires keep coming, and that isn't ever going to change. The operation works well enough all the cx and delays notwithstanding. Don't kid yourselves that only a contract can fix these issues, they can fix them with more band-aids for a long time. Until something gives - it's half off on pilot's sale. Nice to meet you 2022; get used to it.