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ReserveCA 10-12-2018 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by Bolo (Post 2690528)
With all these planes coming on line this year and the next, pilots leaving F9 and not getting the numbers to fill classes, something is going to have to give sooner than later? So if it is the distant future, will F9 be able to run their airline with the short staffing levels that we have already?

CX all vac, offer new hire bonus, sell delivery slots......
Indigo isn't going to give up a nickel. ...

ReserveCA 10-12-2018 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2690567)
CX all vac, offer new hire bonus, sell delivery slots......
Indigo isn't going to give up a nickel. ...

Add increase block to 85+
Days off no more than 12

CBA ......pthhhhhh..operational need

And....when sick calls go thru the roof add an attendance policy......

We r far from the bottom

Missed Appch 10-13-2018 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2690581)
We r far from the bottom

Totally agree.

spaaks 10-13-2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Bolo (Post 2690528)
With all these planes coming on line this year and the next, pilots leaving F9 and not getting the numbers to fill classes, something is going to have to give sooner than later? So if it is the distant future, will F9 be able to run their airline with the short staffing levels that we have already?

didn't the FAA say F9 can't take delivery of any new planes until the Mx program is fixed? what's going on with that?

FlyingR6 10-13-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2690581)
Add increase block to 85+
Days off no more than 12

CBA ......pthhhhhh..operational need

And....when sick calls go thru the roof add an attendance policy......

We r far from the bottom

Nailed it.

As far as the FAA allowing any more deliveries, it's my opinion that's why you saw the memo about "getting the a/c more mx touch time, and carrying more spares".

Bolo 10-13-2018 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 2690710)
didn't the FAA say F9 can't take delivery of any new planes until the Mx program is fixed? what's going on with that?




That is not true! Delays are because of NEO engines.

ReserveCA 10-14-2018 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 2690776)
Nailed it.

As far as the FAA allowing any more deliveries, it's my opinion that's why you saw the memo about "getting the a/c more mx touch time, and carrying more spares".

They may also threaten to or actually close the denver base...... they closed DTW on spirit. ...

OpenClimb 10-14-2018 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 2691125)
They may also threaten to or actually close the denver base...... they closed DTW on spirit. ...

That would cause the most enormous bump and flush in the history of airlines. The entire system would re-shuffle because 300 Denver captains would essentially have their pick of any other domicile and any other seat, for that matter. The number of involuntary displacements would be staggering. Talk about pouring accelerant on a dumpster fire!

Yeee haw.

El Gipple 10-14-2018 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bolo (Post 2690528)
With all these planes coming on line this year and the next, pilots leaving F9 and not getting the numbers to fill classes, something is going to have to give sooner than later? So if it is the distant future, will F9 be able to run their airline with the short staffing levels that we have already?

That is the key. There is little leverage without help from the NMB which we all know is not happening anytime soon. The Company will deal when it makes sense for them to deal. Inability to staff the airline is where things are eventually going to give.

44 pilots have left the Company in 2018 with only 3 of them due to retirements. By my count, 7 CA's left for greener pastures (or possibly an early retirement from the sh!+show). Honestly, this number is lower than I would expect, BUT....combined with the failure to fill classes and plans for significant hiring over coming months, something is going to need to give.

El Gipple 10-14-2018 06:38 PM

Not to mention the fact that average line values have climbed from 78.07/mo. to 81.77/mo. since January, getting pretty close to the CBA limitation of 85. Imagine how much more leverage we'd have if 38% of our pilots weren't averaging 100+ credit hours per month in 2018! Or the 13% crediting, on average, 130+ in 2018.


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