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CantStayAway

10-19-2018 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by therapysession (Post 2694193)

I don't know where you see 2-2.5 years. Everyone on property can see the bid for PHL and the most junior capt would be 3.5 years. I don't know where you're getting your info but whoever told you that is an idiot. As for 40% that would still put us at the bottom so no, not a step in the right the direction. 40% might as well read 1% for the majority of pilots here.

I was wondering the same thing. I’m at 2 1/2 years on property and my “what if” does not show me able to hold Captain anywhere in the system, including PHL/TTN. 😂

V1 McFlyerson

10-19-2018 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by airspeed1974 (Post 2694209)

Again,not rumour mongering. Had i said I KNOW THAT FRONTIER WILL BE PAID ON PAR WITH FEDEX, then yes. As for who told me this, it was someone on the inside at F9. Could be total BS like you guys said. I don't know. The thought process was no one wants to goto PHL, so would be a quick upgrade. Didn't mean to created heartache or trauma amongst you folks. Just looking for info.

The person you spoke to is obviously a liar (big shock, huh?), because 40% is laughable. That's not market rate.

therapysession

10-19-2018 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by airspeed1974 (Post 2694209)

Again,not rumour mongering. Had i said I KNOW THAT FRONTIER WILL BE PAID ON PAR WITH FEDEX, then yes. As for who told me this, it was someone on the inside at F9. Could be total BS like you guys said. I don't know. The thought process was no one wants to goto PHL, so would be a quick upgrade. Didn't mean to created heartache or trauma amongst you folks. Just looking for info.

Not to jump all over you, but no, you're not looking for info. You had no question. You simply started a thread that was wrong in every sentence. Sorry to come down on you and I mean no ill will, but your timing couldn't have been any worse, your phraseology couldn't have been worse, and the sense of positivity in your post albeit intended or not comes off as.....ignorant. Please educate yourself through the various ALPA resources that have been posted.

XDRVR

10-19-2018 12:08 PM

Been here 3 years and 3 months and I can't hold any captain spots. Not the 2 1/2 years I was told when I got hired.

fcoolaiddrinker

10-19-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XDRVR (Post 2694391)

Been here 3 years and 3 months and I can't hold any captain spots. Not the 2 1/2 years I was told when I got hired.

I was told 5 and it took 9. It always takes longer than advertised. Management basically takes the quickest recent upgrade (in the least desirable base) and says thats how long it takes. Always add at least 2 years and hope the music doesn't stop.

CrewRest

10-22-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 2694408)

Kind of like saying we'll have a contract w/in 2 years when negotiations started!! :D:D

fcoolaiddrinker

10-22-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CrewRest (Post 2696019)

Kind of like saying we'll have a contract w/in 2 years when negotiations started!! :D:D

Generally time frames are given when negotiations start with the intent of moving the process forward expeditiously. I.E. keep both parties at the table moving forward. Right now were basically dead in the water with this NMB. Any NC isn't going to start negotiations saying we have no idea when were going to see a contract? They try and give a best guesstimate (usually overlly optimistic ill give you that) and go from there. Management on the other hand is using best case scenarios to recruit pilots with the intention of dragging out negotiations as long as possible. So its a little different but just as frustrating.

Powderkeg

10-23-2018 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by airspeed1974 (Post 2694037)

So I have heard a 2-2.5 year upgrade to Captain if holding PHL and the new contract is going to increase the pay 40 percent more. If it is true then would def be a step in the right direction for you guys.

Officially:

Junior CA award to somebody 3 years 4 months. So only a year off on what the OP “heard”. :rolleyes:

Now about that pay increase...

Notarealpilot

10-23-2018 07:28 AM

Off by a year so I guess we will see pay increases in a little over a year.

Jet Jockey 00

10-23-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Powderkeg (Post 2696250)

Officially:

Junior CA award to somebody 3 years 4 months. So only a year off on what the OP “heard”. :rolleyes:

Now about that pay increase...

Say you get a new contract tomorrow what would a NH upgrade be?

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