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Old 12-14-2018, 07:36 PM
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FDO and 3x6 reserve lines are NOT eligible for rsv day swaps or aggressive bids. Up to 40% of lines can be built as FDO, 3x6, and long call if I remember correctly
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Originally Posted by shreddykreuger
FDO and 3x6 reserve lines are NOT eligible for rsv day swaps or aggressive bids. Up to 40% of lines can be built as FDO, 3x6, and long call if I remember correctly
If you mean 40% total, I believe you’re correct. If you mean that any individual option (FDO, 3x6, long call) can reach 40% on its own that is incorrect. I asked about this at a road show.

Page 25.22 “No less than ten percent (10%) and no more than twenty percent (20%) of the Reserve lines will be Fixed Day Off (FDO) lines, provided there are at least twenty (20) total Reserves in the Position. If there are fewer than twenty (20) total Reserve lines in a Position, FDO lines may be constructed at Company discretion.”

Specifically I asked if a base has less than 20 reserve pilots, can all be subjected to an FDO reserve? The answer I got was that the “company discretion” only allows them to go below the 10%, not exceed the 20%. I hope they’re right and that the company never tests this language. I was also told that FDO lines tend to go senior because they can be used to “game the system” and pilots really like them.
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Old 12-15-2018, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
If you mean 40% total, I believe you’re correct. If you mean that any individual option (FDO, 3x6, long call) can reach 40% on its own that is incorrect. I asked about this at a road show.

Page 25.22 “No less than ten percent (10%) and no more than twenty percent (20%) of the Reserve lines will be Fixed Day Off (FDO) lines, provided there are at least twenty (20) total Reserves in the Position. If there are fewer than twenty (20) total Reserve lines in a Position, FDO lines may be constructed at Company discretion.”

Specifically I asked if a base has less than 20 reserve pilots, can all be subjected to an FDO reserve? The answer I got was that the “company discretion” only allows them to go below the 10%, not exceed the 20%. I hope they’re right and that the company never tests this language. I was also told that FDO lines tend to go senior because they can be used to “game the system” and pilots really like them.
Just how might a pilot game the system with FDO lines?

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Old 12-15-2018, 12:28 PM
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Bid a week of vacation in the middle of the month and then bid a FDO rsv line with the first 12 days off and get 20+ days off in a row.
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Old 12-15-2018, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Bid a week of vacation in the middle of the month and then bid a FDO rsv line with the first 12 days off and get 20+ days off in a row.
Ha! Duh, that's rather obvious isn't it. And 75 hours to boot. Thanks Xdash!
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Old 12-15-2018, 02:29 PM
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Old 12-15-2018, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Bid a week of vacation in the middle of the month and then bid a FDO rsv line with the first 12 days off and get 20+ days off in a row.
I don't think you quite understand how PBS works...
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Originally Posted by therapysession
I don't think you quite understand how PBS works...
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I think I just agreed with therapy.
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Old 12-15-2018, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
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I think I just agreed with therapy.
-1 you are wrong
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Originally Posted by therapysession
I don't think you quite understand how PBS works...
Excerpt from an answer to one of the FAQ on the ALPA website:

“The option of bidding an FDO line that includes a string of 12 consecutive days off adjacent to your vacation may be another attractive option for some pilots.”
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