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Excargodog is exactly right.
Attrition is ammunition for us. It's all good guys. A better contract is coming sooner |
Frontier/Spirit has 283 planes combined. Their merger document shows them growing to 493 planes by the end of 2026. 15 pilots per plane means Frontier/ Spirit needs to grow by a net 630 pilots per year for the next 5 years. Grab your popcorn this is about to get interesting.
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
(Post 3376171)
I responded to this same post in the Spirit “Attrition” thread, but I’ll post my reply here too as it’s equally relevant. This is disappointing math, but not how you may think. This means that we need to net 10.5 pilots per month for the next 5 years. That’s not a lot and it may not take the massive contract gains we’re all hoping for to make that happen. A few minor tweaks and a few extra bucks might actually do it. Know what you want, make it known to the union, and vote no if the joint TA is not good enough in your eyes. This is an opportunity like never before. Don’t sell yourself short.
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My math comes out to 53 pilots per month net gain starting 2 months ago. That means we are already over 100 people behind where we need to be based off attrition.
throw in some retirements and people leaving for legacies we have some major hiring on the horizon. |
Originally Posted by Planedrive
(Post 3376176)
My math comes out to 53 pilots per month net gain starting 2 months ago. That means we are already over 100 people behind where we need to be based off attrition.
throw in some retirements and people leaving for legacies we have some major hiring on the horizon. |
Originally Posted by mavsfflife
(Post 3376175)
630/year would be around 50 a month not 10 right?
Originally Posted by Planedrive
(Post 3376176)
My math comes out to 53 pilots per month net gain starting 2 months ago. That means we are already over 100 people behind where we need to be based off attrition.
throw in some retirements and people leaving for legacies we have some major hiring on the horizon. Holy moly. The wife and I enjoyed a little too much wine tonight apparently. Yes, both of your math is correct. I misread the original post and thought planedrive was saying that we only needed 630 over the next 5 years. So, my math was right. My reading comprehension was very wrong. Carry on. Nothing to see here. |
Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
(Post 3376182)
Holy moly. The wife and I enjoyed a little too much wine tonight apparently. Yes, both of your math is correct. I misread the original post and thought planedrive was saying that we only needed 630 over the next 5 years. So, my math was right. My reading comprehension was very wrong. Carry on. Nothing to see here.
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Originally Posted by mavsfflife
(Post 3376183)
Lol I can relate. 50 a month is no joke. The fact we can’t even hit that now, at the beginning of the wave, is concerning.
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Originally Posted by mavsfflife
(Post 3376183)
The fact we can’t even hit that now, at the beginning of the wave, is concerning.
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Airline Pilot Mag
Did you see in this latest issue of Airline Pilot Magazine that Spirt alone plans on hiring 800 pilots in 2022? I’m not saying they can do that, but that’s what the article was touting.
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