Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3397060)

It has always been part of the interview process at most regionals and every interview process for any airline gig above a regional. Especially career destinations. It may seem pointless to you, but people have lost job offers because of the process. Interviewers are looking for things both big and small. On the “small” end, your attention to detail and neatness of your logbook says a lot about you. On the “big” end, interviewers are looking for signs of things like pencil whipping, maybe a failed 141 stage check that you didn’t disclose but wouldn’t be on a PRIA pull, questionable/illegal flight time (they might be very interested to hear your explanation of that SIC time you have in a piper seminole or that PIC time you logged while keeping the right seat warm in that straight wing citation despite not being type rated, but logged PIC because you were “sole manipulator” and used it in the PIC total on your application.

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter that you think it’s pointless. It’s part of the process whether you like it or not. Which, incidentally, is also part of what is being looked for. Are you going to half a** it just because you don’t agree with it? There are many ways to fly a plane, but the company about to hire you and sign you paychecks has THEIR way they want you to do it. Are you going to do it the way they tell you to even though you don’t like or agree with their SOPs that have been blessed by the FAA? Or, are you going to just go ahead and it your less pointless way?

The whole thing is a non event that you’re making out to be like it’s some sort of interrogation. It was many years back so the process may have changed, but my panel interview consisted of three people. Two asking me questions and the third sat at the end of the table thumbing through my logbook. Not a single question was ever asked, but it showed I had attention to detail enough and cared enough to do what they had asked me to do.

You may also be interested to know that, years ago, a logbook review with the FSDO was required in order to apply for your ATP. Much for the very same reasons as listed above - Is all the flight time you are claiming legitimate flight time? If it was obvious that you pencil whipped your logbook or logged illegal time then that would be a clear contradiction of the “good moral character” requirement for the ATP and you application would be denied.. forever.

Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre (Post 3397073)

The more you push back; the more it sounds like you’ve something to hide. TOGALOCK gave you a superb explanation and you’re still bauking.
Yes. F9 is hiring like gangbusters, as is every airline in the country. We have our faults, but our hiring process is robust. It screens out people who’ll be difficult later.
There’s little point arguing with a prospective employers due diligence. You’ll just be unhappy later..

Originally Posted by Egg320 (Post 3397083)

Sorry for disagreeing and having an opinion, the horror! I have nothing to hide, just hate having my time wasted by pointless exercises in futility.

If I apply to a company, any company and I don’t get hired I don’t really care, it’s not one of those things that has ever bothered me. I like life kept simple and easy.

I would rather join a company where 2 pilots sit down and just talk, see if it’s a fit for either party and go from there. I’m old school in that way.

Just treat us like adults for gods sake, not a lot to ask for. Maybe I should take my high school reports along as well…just in case.

Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3397093)

Dude...

First of all, Frontier is going to hand you the keys to a 100 Million dollar jet with 230 people on it. They want to trust you. Asking to look at your logbook is really not asking that much.

Second, the aircraft logbook is a constant source if problems at every airline. Missing signatures, incorrectly applied MELs, missed inspections, various checks missed, etc. It's a constant issue across the industry. If Frontier hires you, you will eventually be a Captain and will be required to do the logbook. They want to see that you don't have a logbook riddled with mistakes. That's all. It's not a big deal.

During a job interview the company only has so much time and resources to try and find out what kind of an employee you will be. They can't fly with you, ask your previous fellow pilots about you, they can only do so much. The logbook is just a small glimpse into who you are. Assuming your logbook isn't a complete disaster, it's a total non event.

But if you have missing data, miscalculated numbers, or whatever it could be an issue.

If you can't undestand that, it can't be explained to you.

Originally Posted by Egg320 (Post 3397102)

Sensitive much!

Originally Posted by Egg320 (Post 3397102)

Sensitive much!