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singlepilot 04-16-2022 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3406905)
Are you guys having the same problem we’re having at the yellow bus? So many FOs leaving, it is clogging up the school house and not allowing many upgrades.

Yup, true story

Planedrive 04-16-2022 08:44 AM

Not a problem at Frontier. We have only run 6 upgrades in 2022.

Stayontarget 04-16-2022 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3406905)
Are you guys having the same problem we’re having at the yellow bus? So many FOs leaving, it is clogging up the school house and not allowing many upgrades.

Attrition-yes. To the magnitude of Spirit- it doesn’t sound like it. According to our system bid 6 captains as Planedrive said but we actually accomplished our displacement bid for better or worse and I don’t know how many new captain spots were awarded from that vs downgrades.

I wish I had tracked class sizes closer to have actual numbers of attrition for you. All I can say for certain is 40% of my class has left in 10 months. But it seems the rest of us are pretty content here and even, dare I say, happy here.

JulesWinfield 04-16-2022 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3406932)
Attrition-yes. To the magnitude of Spirit- it doesn’t sound like it. According to our system bid 6 captains as Planedrive said but we actually accomplished our displacement bid for better or worse and I don’t know how many new captain spots were awarded from that vs downgrades.

I wish I had tracked class sizes closer to have actual numbers of attrition for you. All I can say for certain is 40% of my class has left in 10 months. But it seems the rest of us are pretty content here and even, dare I say, happy here.


OK, so your lack of upgrades is the plan? We originally planned to upgrade something like 30+ a month, but attrition killed it and its down to around 10 or less. We have hired over 200 people this year, but a net gain of only 60.

Aero1900 04-16-2022 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3406935)
OK, so your lack of upgrades is the plan? We originally planned to upgrade something like 30+ a month, but attrition killed it and its down to around 10 or less. We have hired over 200 people this year, but a net gain of only 60.

Interesting. I don't think our (F9) attrition has been nearly that bad. I don't know why it wouldn't be about the same but I don't think it is.

But yes, to answer your question, we have seen less upgrades than planned and I'm sure it's at least partially due to attrition and partially due to closing Chicago

buzzer 04-16-2022 10:16 AM

Training Commuting
 
Training transportation question my new hire friend can't find an answer to over the weekend. Going to/from home during initial training. Any positive space travel and if so how to you do it? Also required jump seat time...what is the priority and is there any special method to sign up for it or just the normal method? TIA!

el_duderino 04-16-2022 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by buzzer (Post 3406957)
Training transportation question my new hire friend can't find an answer to over the weekend. Going to/from home during initial training. Any positive space travel and if so how to you do it? Also required jump seat time...what is the priority and is there any special method to sign up for it or just the normal method? TIA!

No positive space. Jump seat varies by carrier, some you list at the gate, some you list prior online.

buzzer 04-16-2022 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by el_duderino (Post 3407030)
No positive space. Jump seat varies by carrier, some you list at the gate, some you list prior online.

Thank you. Sorry I didn't specify F9 for JS legs that are required.

Punkah Louvre 04-16-2022 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by el_duderino (Post 3407030)
No positive space. Jump seat varies by carrier, some you list at the gate, some you list prior online.

you will be required to complete 4 legs of line flight observation during groundschool. Many new hires align those flights in the jumpseat with travel
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buzzer 04-16-2022 02:46 PM

Are they “must ride” Jumpseat flights or system seniority? Sorry for the million questions.


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