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Unfortunately between our upcoming Q3 results, which now don’t look promising, and some indications of a possible cooling economy we might be seeing the start.
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Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 3696866)
First of all, we ALL understand your point. What I think you fail to realize (or just plain didn't know) is that just about EVERY worker in America has to spend their own personal money on job related items. In fact, you've already done it assuming you have a suitcase and a flashlight. You are REQUIRED to have a flashlight per our publications and one HAS NOT been provided. For most others, uniforms (or appropriate attire) aren't covered. Lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc. Some waiters/waitresses need certain types of clothing to work at a restaurant (not sure you ever saw the movie Office Space). There are probably thousands of regular workers all over the world that have had to spend their OWN money to purchase an item that arguably the company should pay for. Where do you draw the line? Good question. But I'm certainly not doing so on this matter because . . .
Second, the cost DOES matter. It's a freaking cheap safety vest. If safety vests cost $300, then yes, you stand on a soapbox. At $7, you're just petty. You look, sound (and probably are) an arse!!!! You think a guy working for a lawn service company is gonna complain about a one-time $7 safety vest purchase? You think he understands your plight? You think school teachers, who routinely spend hundreds on decorations and things for YOUR kids at their school, will side w/ you in a strike when it comes out you don't want to do an important safety step of your job over a safety vest? Hell, the flashlight probably cost you more. Third, THE MATTER WAS ALREADY HANDLED FOR YOU by the union. You don't think they had a discussion about vests before they decided to buy everyone one? I'm sure it went something like this forum until someone smart stood up and pointed out the points I made above. This is union money WELL SPENT - it's useful, it promotes a more safe environment and it shows that we're not petty (at least some of us). Honestly, the whole matter is fairly freakin embarrasing. Public debates such as these diminish the status of our profession. I can't believe how out of touch we seem to have become. |
Originally Posted by AlternateLaw
(Post 3697095)
Unfortunately between our upcoming Q3 results, which now don’t look promising, and some indications of a possible cooling economy we might be seeing the start.
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Originally Posted by FlyingR6
(Post 3697100)
Don't we still have quite a few airplanes being delivered in the near future? I get a cooling, but a freeze? With all time high attrition, and deliveries, I don't know how we can stop.
Next thing you know hiring completely stopped, hiring pools were flushed, early outs were on the table, warn notices/furloughs were imminent, and there was going to be hugely expensive training events because everyone was going to be moving seats. And then a year and a half later the pilot shortage finally happened. Who knows. Anyone who says they know, or anything is guaranteed in an order book is lying. Don’t believe anything until you’re in the seat and past “V1, Rotate” |
They say it’s an ill wind that blows no good. A lot of regionals are CA limited with big backups in their FO hiring. Which means that the second tier majors (AS, B6, NK, and F9) are getting a shot at some of the better pilot candidates who have not yet done much if any 121 flying. Makes it a lot easier on recruiting if not on training people or the line CAs that will be doing a lot of unpaid OE training.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3696792)
You have limited time and leverage in contract negotiations. How much of either would you spend on a ONE TIME $7 item in a 35 year career? Not all battles are worth fighting, even if you are in the right. Spend the effort on something that’s actually worth it. Something that won’t make a neutral arbiter think you are a cheap entitled fool.
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Originally Posted by FlyingR6
(Post 3697100)
Don't we still have quite a few airplanes being delivered in the near future? I get a cooling, but a freeze? With all time high attrition, and deliveries, I don't know how we can stop.
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Originally Posted by JoeFever1
(Post 3697186)
I bet it’s a training backlog. Only thing that makes sense. Which is great because it means they can’t out hire attrition which I’ve been saying all along.
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Originally Posted by Bronteroc
(Post 3697629)
That was somewhat believable until the disappearance of the recruiting social media
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Originally Posted by spooldup
(Post 3697673)
I was told from a sim guy that they are going to start doing 80 a month and 30-40 upgrades.... He was wondering how it will get done though.
I think Biffle is freaking out about the economy and load factors. I think they are going to reduce block hours going forward |
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