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10-21-2020, 08:56 AM
#1152
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 330
Originally Posted by Aero1900
I'm not a company apologist. I just have this ability to comprehend reality, which is not particularly common around here.
I never said that the 35 hour cola was anything other than substandard. I did however point on that since it was completely optional, and was in no way a concession, it wasn't worth getting too upset about. Any time your company pays you money and benefits to sit home and not work for an extended period of time (especially during a business crisis) its a good deal.
Southwest and United (among others) offered more lucrative leaves of absence than us. No question. But they are also going to be looking at contract concessions. We aren't. Southwest has already asked the pilots to take a pay cut, and I guarantee United will follow. I don't need to apologize for Frontier.
Best of much to all, and I mean that whole heartily
I never said that the 35 hour cola was anything other than substandard. I did however point on that since it was completely optional, and was in no way a concession, it wasn't worth getting too upset about. Any time your company pays you money and benefits to sit home and not work for an extended period of time (especially during a business crisis) its a good deal.
Southwest and United (among others) offered more lucrative leaves of absence than us. No question. But they are also going to be looking at contract concessions. We aren't. Southwest has already asked the pilots to take a pay cut, and I guarantee United will follow. I don't need to apologize for Frontier.
Best of much to all, and I mean that whole heartily
Kirby loves him some RJs
At least our flying stays in house
10-21-2020, 09:41 AM
#1154
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Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 289
Originally Posted by putzin
The dude is an unstable old man, I wouldn't pay too much attention to his lame assertions. Especially given the fact he can't even figure out the correct daily cash burn at his own airline and the majority of posts are moronic at best.
He rates up there with your company apologists (aero and toga) that rant about how F9 made money in 2q then support your substandard COLAs. Bottom line is you guys got your azzez handed to you by Franky and Indigo.
As for your survival, I think you have a pretty damn good chance as long as Indigo keeps emptying those pockets in F9. I'm pretty sure they see the US as the best possible country to recover some of their investment back from their attempt at world domination. Their domination seemed plausible and like a great idea pre covid, I'm not so sure now. Though given the fact they never made it to IPO, maybe it wasn't working out as planned? Time will tell.
That's just my 2¢ and worth exactly that about Indigo and F9. I'm spot on though about the dumb$hit from SWA. 😊
He rates up there with your company apologists (aero and toga) that rant about how F9 made money in 2q then support your substandard COLAs. Bottom line is you guys got your azzez handed to you by Franky and Indigo.
As for your survival, I think you have a pretty damn good chance as long as Indigo keeps emptying those pockets in F9. I'm pretty sure they see the US as the best possible country to recover some of their investment back from their attempt at world domination. Their domination seemed plausible and like a great idea pre covid, I'm not so sure now. Though given the fact they never made it to IPO, maybe it wasn't working out as planned? Time will tell.
That's just my 2¢ and worth exactly that about Indigo and F9. I'm spot on though about the dumb$hit from SWA. 😊
10-21-2020, 10:47 AM
#1155
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 918
Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing
Talk about moronic. Have you had a chance to review some of your 1000 gems? GMAFB!
10-22-2020, 07:49 AM
#1158
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Posts: 629
Originally Posted by Need a real job
The trolls getting in here thick tonight🙄
We don’t hear from the one guy that left us for United much anymore. He used to come on here often and bust our asses for still being at F9. Remember him or her?
10-22-2020, 08:08 AM
#1159
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 300
Originally Posted by Aero1900
I'm not a company apologist. I just have this ability to comprehend reality, which is not particularly common around here.
I never said that the 35 hour cola was anything other than substandard. I did however point out that since it was completely optional, and was in no way a concession, it wasn't worth getting too upset about. Any time your company pays you money and benefits to sit home and not work for an extended period of time (especially during a business crisis) its a good deal.
Southwest and United (among others) offered more lucrative leaves of absence than us. No question. But they are also going to be looking at contract concessions. We aren't. Southwest has already asked the pilots to take a pay cut, and I guarantee United will follow. I don't need to apologize for Frontier.
Best of luck to all, and I mean that whole heartedly
I never said that the 35 hour cola was anything other than substandard. I did however point out that since it was completely optional, and was in no way a concession, it wasn't worth getting too upset about. Any time your company pays you money and benefits to sit home and not work for an extended period of time (especially during a business crisis) its a good deal.
Southwest and United (among others) offered more lucrative leaves of absence than us. No question. But they are also going to be looking at contract concessions. We aren't. Southwest has already asked the pilots to take a pay cut, and I guarantee United will follow. I don't need to apologize for Frontier.
Best of luck to all, and I mean that whole heartedly
10-22-2020, 08:31 AM
#1160
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,821
I am a UAL guy that has several friends at F9 - this whole my airline is better than yours is as sophomoric as which fleet you are on. I hope the entire industry comes back strong in the nearest of futures.
Yours.....ours - all of them.
As a pilot you get to an airline that you’d like to plant your flag due to a variety of reasons and hopefully gain enough seniority to have decent pay and quality of life.
I walked the line during F9 negotiations and would do it again in a heartbeat. Good luck to us all 👊🏻
Yours.....ours - all of them.
As a pilot you get to an airline that you’d like to plant your flag due to a variety of reasons and hopefully gain enough seniority to have decent pay and quality of life.
I walked the line during F9 negotiations and would do it again in a heartbeat. Good luck to us all 👊🏻
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