Furlough
#981
It’s just one man’s opinion, but the way things are set up at Frontier, I think that someone padding their schedule after Oct. 1 is an even greater offense than someone padding their schedule under a traditional furlough. With a standard furlough it indirectly affects the furloughed pilots by aiding the company’s staffing requirement. Under our cola-0 setup it’s literally taking money away from our people on furlough who are able to pick it up. It’s no different than going up to a legitimately homeless person on the street and taking the last ten dollars out of their pocket. That day turn could feed someone’s family for a couple of weeks. That four day trip might pay their mortgage for another month. Schedule whoring is about to be the johnson head move of all johnson head moves. Truly right up there with the “S” word. If a line holder wants to unload something off their schedule, make sure to put in on the trade board rather than a straight drop into open time. Be sure it goes to a deserving pilot.
#982
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It’s just one man’s opinion, but the way things are set up at Frontier, I think that someone padding their schedule after Oct. 1 is an even greater offense than someone padding their schedule under a traditional furlough. With a standard furlough it indirectly affects the furloughed pilots by aiding the company’s staffing requirement. Under our cola-0 setup it’s literally taking money away from our people on furlough who are able to pick it up. It’s no different than going up to a legitimately homeless person on the street and taking the last ten dollars out of their pocket. That day turn could feed someone’s family for a couple of weeks. That four day trip might pay their mortgage for another month. Schedule whoring is about to be the johnson head move of all johnson head moves. Truly right up there with the “S” word. If a line holder wants to unload something off their schedule, make sure to put in on the trade board rather than a straight drop into open time. Be sure it goes to a deserving pilot.
#984
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Yup. Put in the notes available to cola-0 only and require a phone call. That way it can’t just be picked up by a non furlough. Worked well for pilots that had thier vacation taken at the end of negotiations. I put it in the notes. Willing to pickup if you lost vac. Then had to require the phone call as pilots that hadn’t lost vac started trying to dump garbage on me.
#985
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if most fo’s drop to the contractual limits (60,70) there will be 1000’s of credit hrs available every bid period. Pbs is going to build to an average between 77-82. Whatever the historic look back is? Don’t have it in front of me.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 09-21-2020 at 09:31 PM.
#987
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Wow, the level of ignorance here makes me sick.
#988
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Find a new career perhaps?
If there’s no pilots out on furlough and assuming any extra open-time is being picked up without the use of a bot and within the confines of your CBA, then I don’t see the problem. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
If there’s no pilots out on furlough and assuming any extra open-time is being picked up without the use of a bot and within the confines of your CBA, then I don’t see the problem. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
#989
Except for the fact that we're all talking about some of our pilots being on a COLA-0... Frontier's friendly term for furlough.
Last edited by TOGALOCK; 09-22-2020 at 07:15 AM.
#990
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Wouldn't it be better to load up your schedule and hold onto the pairings until after the secondary bid. Then put what you picked up on the trade board? If not all the extra time will be made into relief lines?
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